Industry’s guarantees four commitments to Premier at meeting
THE New South Wales greyhound industry is continuing its fight for survival following a meeting with Premier Mike Baird and Deputy Premier Troy Grant on Tuesday morning.
Representing the industry was NSW Greyhound Breeders Owners and Trainers Association (GBOTA) CEO Brenton Scott, who is also the head of the NSW Greyhound Racing Industry Alliance.
At the meeting the Alliance made four guarantees of action to the Government and community as a means of demonstrating the industry's unwavering commitment to reform.
“We appreciate the Premier listening to our plan for the future this morning,” Scott said.
“We are committed to a plan that will ensure we meet the expectations of the community and can still operate a viable and sustainable industry.”
The four guarantees are as follows:
– A total life cycle management for all greyhounds born into the industry, including every greyhound which is unable to race as well as retired dogs.
– A controlled breeding program which would immediately limit the amount of greyhounds being bred for racing within NSW to 2000 annually.
– A zero tolerance attitude towards animal cruelty which would result in life time bans for any participants found guilty of acts such as live baiting.
– Providing strict standards to ensure the safest racing environment as a means of eliminating avoidable injury.
Each of the four guarantees came with a detailed action plan to demonstrate to the Government how the industry expects to meet each of the commitments.
The plans include positive initiatives such as breeding quotas, new grading systems for racing greyhounds, additional funding for adoption programs and a new industry Code of Practice, which would be enforceable by a regulatory and supervisory structure.
Scott said the guarantees made by the Alliance demonstrate a response to some of the Government and community's main concerns for the sport of greyhound racing.
“Important to the community is the fact that our plan for the future means that every greyhound bred will live out a full and natural life whether as a racing dog, adopted as a family pet, or as the responsibility of its owner or the industry,” Scott said.
“We are confident that we can meet these guarantees. We have thoroughly researched the issues. The modelling that we have done, plus case studies from other states and overseas, demonstrates that this is all viable and achievable.”
Scott said Baird saw the significant impact his decision is going to have on the state and reiterated that the Alliance is keen to work with the Premier on reforming the industry.
“I believe the Premier showed an understanding of the impact of his decision and we are happy to work with him further to demonstrate the viability of our industry.
“We hope he agrees to work with us as we are confident we have a viable industry inclusive of the animal welfare guarantees we presented to him today.
“We are open to independent credible modelling to further check our future capability inclusive of these strong reforms and infrastructure upgrades.
“We are just asking for a fair go and a chance to demonstrate that we can change.”
simple,sit down solution one would believe. I just cannot get my head around even thinking that BAIRD was understanding. if he was,why are we in this mess now? oh,that’s right,TROY GRANT suggested,in no uncertain terms,THAT WE HAVE OURSELVES TO BLAME BY SIGNIING THAT STUPID 100 YEAR DEAL. OK, apart from that,what makes us think by sitting across a table with a guy like BAIRD,and his record of dislike of the industry,that we can get hope from that? I like BRENTON SCOTT and his mannerism,but don’t be sucked in mate by there CREEPY COLGATE SMILES…….do what you have to mate,but always… Read more »
ROUND #1…..LOSS BY GOBTA/NSW
SUPREME COURT TODAY WAS A LOSS FOR THE GBOTA WHEN REQUESTING CASE TO BE BROUGHT FORWARD……..DENIED.
REQUEST FOR A VIEWING OF THE ALLEGED MCHUGH NOTES ON HIS OWN COMMISSION………DENIED.
well,we have to wait until the 24th now for the scheduled court appearance.
hope this is not a sign of things to come?
watch CHANNEL 601 ON SKY TONIGHT.SCOTT/LATHAM/HADLEY will have an evening of merriments…..and dog talk……8PM
dogem53 Denial of request for case to be put forward- standard procedure the Australian legal system has never had urgency at it’s core. The people involved are paid by the hour. Similarly protecting a retired high court judge- standard procedure for a supreme court judge to protect a judge who retired or not was a High Court Judge.
Deborah555 dogem53 I don’t read much into that of being Denied ,as you said its standard procedure in the Supreme Court. As for Scott’s meeting with Baird and Grant, this could be a major shift in attitude by them we hope . We live in hope ! we must keep the heat on, its matter of controlling the heat?.
dogem53 PS The validity of a legal decision very much depends upon the level of the court making it. A supreme court judge would not question a decision about a judgement made at a higher level and even though this is about a special commission McHugh is still a respected Juror.
dogem53 I totally agree. This Scott who parades as the leader of owners and breeders here in NSW believed at the time that 100 year deal was a good one and now he is telling the Government that 2000 dogs will keep the industry ticking over here in NSW, sorry Mr Scott you and your crew are selling us short again ,enough is enough, tender your resignation and piss off home to South Australia
Let’s hope that this suggested remedy is also the model for horses.
Don’t think that will ever happen though considering the euthanasia numbers involved for them.
And what would our dogs be fed on.?
Their birth to death if the dogs model was used would be an absolute nightmare.
Yet that is ours to implement.
My belief the Greyhounds future problem will be breeding enough dogs to supply the racing industry.
The agreement promised will inhibit breeding and the motivation to breed considering the huge costs and the number of times a bitch can whelp litters.
Deborah555 dogem53 Correct on all counts Deborah, see below for a few details
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-08-09/greyhound-racing-ban-report-contained-factual-errors-court-told/7703436
Note that the debate on the issue commences tomorrow in the Legislative Council and if passed will be heard by the legislative assembly next month.
Court returns 29th September 2016.
The GBOTA is doing exactly what the members in general meeting instructed them to do that is to spend an appropriate amount of reserves on a rebut of the special commission if necessary.
BobWhitelaw dogem53 I am one of your greatest supporters but request you get back to the main game. One step at a time..
dogem53 your quote “anyone who threatens to go behind the sheds with an old 67y.o man,cannot be trusted.”
Are you talking about Cardinal Pell?
BobWhitelaw dogem53 Bob one of us is not reading dogem53 post right and its probably me but I can see the logic in the four proposals. We delegated the legal responsibility to the legal group because we had been left out previously by in house actions by both out own industry and the pubic service. I am not an each way punter I have put my ideas to the legal group and will let the chips fall where they may.
John Tracey Deborah555 dogem53 Yes I am not sure why you would criticise McHugh at all (if they have actually done that) he made 80 recommendations 79 of which were about a sustainable future. While he may have been the respectable figurehead Rushton was apparently running the show and his behaviour was well outrageous to say the least even his opening statement would be enough to make the report invalid. I notice he is very absent as well, hiding? while a respected juror cops the criticism.
John Tracey BobWhitelaw dogem53 The trouble with you John, you support the one who failed us with the inter-code and he’s failed us again as a breeder and a owner .John for twenty years his been there and has never been behind a good decision yet, its he who should get out of the game . LIVE BAITING has been our demise and he is telling us to BITE BACK and your asking me to get back in the main game, i’ve been in the main game for twenty years and when your dealing politicians who know nothing about what your selling,… Read more »
SIT AROUND A TABLE AND DISCUSS WITH THIS FELLA???? TROY GRANT!!!!
YOU WOULD NEED ARMOUR IN CASE HE TOOK A HIDING TO YOU. WHAT A HERO OF THE CAUSE.
Deborah555 John Tracey dogem53 COULD THINK OF A FEW REASONS OFF MY HEAD…INACCURATE MATHEMATICS FOR A START..NOT ALLOWING PUBLIC VIEWING/HEARING OF THE CASE FOR ANOTHER…..CLOSED SHOP FOR ANOTHER, ETC;ETC; DEB HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE REPORT,THAT IS WHAT HE WAS PAID THE BIG BUCKS FOR. HE SHOULD HAVE ALSO ALERTED ALL AND SUNDRY,THAT HE WAS OUT OF THE COURT SCENE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS,AND MAY HAVE LOST SOME BRAIN SPEED……SHOULD THAT BE OK BY THOSE IN ATTENDANCE TO ALLOW HIS AGE/RUSTINESS BE A DETRIMENT TO SUCH AN IMPORTANT REPORT?….AND HE WAS DISGUSTING IN HIS HOMEWORK-ALL OVER THE FLOOR, KIDS STUFF REALLY.… Read more »
John Tracey BobWhitelaw dogem53 LOL…CAUGHT UP IN THE MOMENT JOHN.NOW REMIND AGAIN,WHERE IS IT I SHOULD RE-START…………(not having BOBS obvious insights into past runnings of racing in NSW,one is lost a tad as to histrionics in the past by some). BOB, I have no idea of his background(research DOGEM) but comforting to know there is a past history that has had some influence in todays situation…….
TELL US MORE BOB.
John Tracey dogem53 LOL, NOW YOUR WARMING UP PROPER JOHN. AGAIN THAT CHURCH THING BOBS UP…….AND ME,THE QUIETE PETITE OLD BASTARD THAT MEANS NO HARM TO ANY………..UNLESS YOU ARE A PRIEST FROM ANGLICAN AND CATHOLIC DIOCESE…………LOL. BUT NOW A NEW FIGURE HAS LOOMED UP OVER THE HORIZON……ANIMALS AUSTRALIA’S OWN CANDIDATE FOR CRIMINAL CHAMPION,PETER STRINGER.(HUGH WILL WONDER WHY I RAISE HIS NAME…….REMEBER HUGH,ANIMALS WHEN BEING SEXUALLY MOLESTED,HAVE FEELING TO…..YOUR OWN WORDS SON) THE MIND JUST BOGGLES AS TO WHAT IS THE OUTCOME FOR ANYONE INVOLVED IN A CHURCH SET UP…..CRIKEY,EVEN TOM CRUISE IS TANGLED UP IN THE MUMBO JUMBO OF SCIENTOLOGY’S BELIEFS…….PLEASE,SOMEONE… Read more »
dogem53 Deborah555 John Tracey I think you have missed the point nobody in the supreme court is going to criticise him. it is just not going to happen,. Rushton on the other hand is a mere QC rumoured to have taken over the show and he made all the totally biased statements. I am certainly not the legal expert I just think it is a futile move to condemn a former high court judge when some-one else is available.
John Tracey BobWhitelaw dogem53 Bob and Dogem53 I think you should both heed John’s advice, your passion and concern is obvious but that’s not always how you win.
dogem53 If you want to win you have to play the game and talkies are part of the game, while you do more useful things behind the scenes.
Deborah555 John Tracey BobWhitelaw dogem53 How can you back one, who has bad form ? I’ll let the industry be the judge ,
dogem53 John Tracey BobWhitelaw 20 years of pretending to have character, where its just been a charade and they, the members have fell for it.
BobWhitelaw Deborah555 John Tracey dogem53 yeah but later not now.
John Tracey dogem53 bit old for the Cardinal ?
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Court+injunction I am hearing you guys,trust me I am,but why was a COURT INJUNCTION not sought today,instead of a meek attempt to curtail McHUGHS COMMISSION REPORT. if its known, and it is established now that it is,that there are FAULTS in that report,and the situation of BAIRD running with the report to put a legislative agreeance to END DOG RACING in NSW,based on that report,why not get a COURT INJUNCTION TO AT LEAST TEMPORARILY HALT PARLIAMENT VOTING ON THE ISSUE,UNTIL A COURT APPEARANCE AND OUTCOME BASED ON SHOWING CAUSE AS TO WHY THAT REPORT IS USELESS AND SHOULD NOT BE… Read more »
Lenchopper The welfare do not want horses to race under 5 years old. There were laws in England in the 18th century stopping two year olds from racing but I have not heard of anything since.
I will put your item on the GRCA (Country Clubs) conference agenda as a suggested item. I can do this as a life member.If you are coming to their conference you should contact the secretary at the Hastings River Greyhound Club and if you want to attend the conference a an observer (if you are not a d3legate) let Rex know.
dogem53 Why is Baird going to the Upper House First ? To try and save face in the Lower House with the coalition members who have disconnected with his decision to close Greyhound Racing here in the Country Area’s
dogem53 Newson is still spending money on surveillance of participants and that’s come from the BUNKER.
BobWhitelaw Deborah555 John Tracey dogem53 Deborah Sage Advice. Bob I will have to agree to disagree with you. I am more interested in the play than the details. I am glad it was not a participant that attacked the 67 year old I would have been very disappointed. I found out it was the Deputy Premier who resented the person saying he was in bed with the Greens.(Ray Hadley 8pm tonight). The truth hurts. Just an ethical dilemma If the 67 year old took out a restraining order on the Minister for gaming and racing and the police would it be difficult to… Read more »
dogem53 John Tracey BobWhitelaw Start by not being deflected by the Ministers attempt to divide the focus by rehashing twenty year old grievances. sorry for being blunt but I hope you buy our history book when it is published if you are interested in past events.
dogem53 Ring up the GBOTA and get put on the alliance notification list and you can follow the events. The normal reason for not getting an injunction is that if the injunction fails then you are not only up for your costs but you have the costs of damages and the legal costs of the Government as well. So you always avoid injunctions like the plague. Other reason is what are you stopping anyway racing continue to JULY 2017 anyway. We tried to put an injunction on the inter code break up when the Tab merged in about 2005 and… Read more »
Mr Scott, Isaw your interview on The Project tonight. Your message is not credible, andneither are you. Why shouldthe public believe that the Greyhound Industry has any commitment to animalwelfare? You say thatyou can develop a total life cycle management plan for every Greyhound. If you cando this now, why didn’t you do this before? The onlyreason that the Greyhound industry has any focus on addressing animal crueltyand animal welfare issues now, is because they have no choice. This is theIndustry’s last ditch effort to save itself. The Greyhound industry culturedoes not support, and probably would not accommodate the plan… Read more »
malber Michelle some of us find the views of people such as yourself less than credible as well. Hiding behind a concern for animal welfare when it is really just about telling other people how to live their lives. Mainstream Australia? just who are they Michelle -the people in your social circle? and thankfully mainstream Australia realises that this is about far more than saving greyhounds it is about democracy. If you seriously believe Baird’s motives are about animal welfare then you are a very naïve person. Your response is sadly typical of the moral high ground of so many activists “too… Read more »
John Tracey dogem53 BobWhitelaw You can certainly put me down to buy a copy John.
malber … there you go again,another activist BASING OPINION ON THE PAST. because it happened before,WE,THE ACTIVIST SEE NO FUTURE EVER OF IT BEING REFORMED,JUST WON’T HAPPEN in their minds………yet it has not begun fully to base a theory on .i suppose what has taken place in past 15 months of NO DOGS SLAUGHTERED has any base with you and your ideas? that is the problem with your type……….you have no future vision.STUCK IN YOUR OWN MUDDY VIEWED IDEALS. I understand your defences on animal cruelty,but do not ,and I mean do not, finger out just one section of animal mis-management. only in… Read more »
malber DO YOURSELF A FAVOUR,AND SPEAK WITH ALAN CLAYTON OF GREYHOUNDS VICTORIA. speak with him why he came in huffing and puffing and demanding and carrying out changes within the industry. ask him how he has taken a state in similar position as NSW,from WHAT YOU SEE,INTO ONE OF THE MOST ”CLEANED UP”INDUSTRIES THAT IS NOW THRIVING…..ASK ABOUT ADOPTION AND THE PROGRAMS THAT SUPOPRT DOG REPLACEMENT,THE REFORMATION IN THAT STATE ALONE PROVES ”THINGS CAN AND DO CHANGE” on the proviso the right person is in charge and has the support of the GOVERNMENT to implement plans. shows that BAIRD is… Read more »
BobWhitelaw dogem53 lol….there you go BOB. I heard that myself. they are desperate now,they have 10 year old material and need fresh stuff.
ALL TRAINERS BE ON NOTICE……..CHECK YOUR PROPERTIES.
GET GOOD CASH FOR CAMERAS AT CASH CONVERTERS……………..what a bunch of dick-wits.
BobWhitelaw dogem53 word bob was some were going to cross the floor. this is his way of not allowing that to occur.
he is bothered, and NOW GRANT WILL BE TORN TO PIECES WEDNESDAY ON RAYS SHOW………WITNESSES WILL BE PROVIDED TO DEFEND OLD LENNY.
gunna be a good day.
Deborah555 malber Michelle I totally disagree with your remarks with regards to the Project Interview however have a great respect for your organisation particularly in the cat and kitten adoption endeavours and note with some pride that your adoption rate is up to 6,000 per month so I can understand at some level the adoption of greyhounds would attract from your main game that is you would need to turn your attention to substituting the rescue of one animal to accommodate the greyhound. The Premier’s solution is not only to ban greyhound racing but stop the breeding of greyhounds but this… Read more »
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/08/09/14/22/owner-pleas-brisbane-council-not-to-kill-her-beloved-dog
well,well,well…..a barking dog to BE SLAUGHTERED.BAIRD,YOU WATCHING THIS? let your kids see this story and explain that to them.
MALBER, WHAT ABOUT YOU. ANYTHING CONSTRUCTIVE TO SAY?
SEE, I WAS RIGHT,YOU CANNOT CONTROL EVERY HUMAN BEING INVOLVED IN AN ANIMAL SITUATION………NOT EVEN A COUNCIL GOOF HEAD who believe s the tale of a neighbour.
so this dog has a FIND AND DESTROY WARRANT OUT on him.
disgusting and the crap just rolls on. come on ACTIVISTS, lets see/hear your defences now.
John Tracey Deborah555 malber JOHN…. ”If I could give you some guidance it would be if you are passionate about a subject you need to reduce the bias by looking at the matter three or four times. This is advice to both sides. I am trained to recognise bias and determine matters appropriately. All people are biased but we must take steps to reduce the bias as much as possible and I find the best way to do this is to read or listen many times before making an assessment on the first hearing or reading we are all conditioned to hear… Read more »
dogem53 BobWhitelaw Thanks for the info. I don’t get many visitors to my property and well sometimes the dress standards here are well not exactly front page vogue stuff. From now on while I am committing extreme acts of cruelty I will at least wear track suit pants without holes and comb my hair. Yes you have to make a bit of an effort for people committing trespass and illegal surveillance they obviously feel they are your superiors and above the law.
Deborah555 John Tracey dogem53 When this thread started I did not know who dogem53 was referring to as the person who threatened the 67 year old behind the fence but I thought that Bob W who had misread Dogem53 post which supported Brenton and slammed the Premier thought that it was critical of Brenton and I thought that Bob thought that you were suggesting Brenton was the person. knew it was not Brenton but I could not figure out who you meant. I now know it was the Minister for Gaming and Racing. Your question of Where were we. We are in… Read more »
John Tracey Deborah555 dogem53 John I was of course being facetious about the cardinal I couldn’t let an opportunity like that go by. Thanks for the number breakdown explains the grovelling to the Animal Justice Party. I am all for animal justice I have told my dogs as soon as you start paying income tax, the chooks as soon as you pay GST, the goats “how are you going with that last ballot paper and the rabbits that if you want constitutional rights I would advise you to do something about your overbreeding and the damage you are doing to the environment,… Read more »
BobWhitelaw dogem53 Surely going to the upper house first would be reason for a vote of no confidence in Baird. That would get everyone off the hook. They must have the numbers, just no guts.
Dogem53 – Jeff’s back “liking” Malber what a surprise eh? Saving cats gives you a license to demonise others. Well there would be some people who think saving cats is just more wildlife killed. I of course would not go onto their website and suggest this of course but they seem to feel justified in trolling on ours.
Deborah555 John Tracey dogem53 Deborah II was not referring to you specifically but to dogem53 to find out who he meant so I tried to lighten it up a bit but Dogem53 does ask a lot of questions which is OK but does not always provide answer to questions himself. The animal justice party got elected in NSW as I understand it on the Donkey vote first on the ticket (I need to check this) but it leads to a bit of history as I remember it Aarons was communist leader who trashed the current leader of the Greens who was too… Read more »
Baird’s arrogance and stupidity continues unabated – he allegedly says he doesn’t care what Scott Morrison does to try to stop asset sales to foreign investors he knows that NSW has some “very attractive assets” for sale and it doesn’t matter what the Federal Government thinks or does he intends to do what he likes. Some-one please rehome him he just hasn’t got what it takes to perform to industry standards.
lone widow BobWhitelaw dogem53 He doesn’t care what happens to anyone else. He just wants to win. Maybe he realises that this is the only way anyone will ever remember his name six months after he retires. Does anyone remember anything his Father did?
John Tracey Deborah555 dogem53 Thanks John great information ( and I know why you tried to lighten up proceedings I enjoyed it I had a good laugh.