NSW Greyhound Racing Industry takes matters to the Supreme Court

THE Industry announced on that the first legal battle to challenge the report of the Special Commission of has commenced.

The challenge comes after NSW Premier announced earlier this month that the government plans to outlaw the sport within the state as of July 1, 2017, following 80 recommendations handed down by the head of the Special Commission of Inquiry, Justice Michael McHugh.

The greyhound racing industry has filed proceedings in the NSW Supreme Court, seeking a declaration that the report is invalid and that it holds no legal effect, with the industry's legal team headed by the former Commonwealth Solicitor General, David Bennett AC QC.

The challenge has arisen after several parts of the report have proven to be factually incorrect, with many industry leaders believing it has shown a strong anti-racing bias.

NSW Greyhound Breeders Owners and Trainers Association said the industry is determined to fight the ban all the way.

“The Premier's decision to ban greyhound racing was based on only one of the 80 recommendations made in the Michael McHugh AC QC Report,” said Brenton Scott.

“The recommendations and the report are being challenged on a number of grounds including the reliance of the Commissioner on the concept of a “social licence to operate” which we believe is inappropriate and unreasonable given that it has been described, amongst other things, as difficult if not impossible to measure.

“The challenge also indicates that the figures relied upon by the Commissioner on ‘wastage' were erroneous.

“The idea that a Government can ban a perfectly lawful racing industry, which operates in every state in Australia and in overseas countries with legal systems the same as Australia's, on the basis that it has lost some form of ‘intangible and unwritten' social licence would be a very worrying development to many in the community.

“This is particularly so when there are no known legal criteria for the issuing and continuation of a ‘social licence' and where respected authors have described it as an ‘intangible construct'. “Our industry has widely identified the many factual errors in the Report in addition to the legal errors identified by our legal counsel.”

The legal challenges comes after the NSW Greyhound Racing Industry Alliance submitted a comprehensive and detailed rebuttal of the report to Mike Baird on July 21.

Some of the factual inaccuracies which have so far arisen from the report includes that between 50-70 per cent of greyhounds are killed for being too slow, while it has since been revealed that 55.4 per cent remain with owners/trainers or are re-homed, 25 per cent die from natural causes, 12.7 per cent are humanely euthanised due to injury or illness, with just 6.9 per cent being unnecessarily, humanely euthanised.

The Alliance has also challenged the report which dismissed the industry's economic and social contributions to NSW, enforcing that greyhound racing contributes over $335 million gross to the state and more than $30 million in state taxes. The sport also sustains more than 1700 full time jobs, more than 1000 of those being in regional areas.

The report also quoted a man named Ernie to support its euthanasia estimates, however this has since been put in the spotlight after it was revealed that Ernie is an American who gave his statement more than 10 years ago in a Canadian report by the University of Toronto.

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Batchellerette
Batchellerette
7 years ago

Hey, I just reread the Rally call,which states no animals please!   OK, what about BANNERS carried by participants, with all dog breeds shown on the banners? That would  make quite a statement!!!

DaveSampson75
DaveSampson75
7 years ago

Its 50 shades of hilarious that GRNSW who kept f..k all records suddenly have updated stats. So why werent they presented to the inquiry? When were these figures known? Lol… the industry is going down. At least I get 11 months of entertainment out of it as I watch the desperate industry clutch at any straw they can find. Victoria and Qld next.

DaveSampson75
DaveSampson75
7 years ago

The figures are dodgy too. So at the end of their career 55% are rehomed .. hmmm. Maybe. 25% die from natural causes? 25% of 4 to 5 year old greyhounds in peak physical condition are dropping dead???? Errrr ok. I believe you … lol.

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

DaveSampson75 LOL……..hey everyone,look at SAMPSON entertaining himself. and another 11 months of trying to find little ditties to say hey Davey boy. just be careful old son DELILAH isn’t part of the SUPREME COURT PANEL……snip,snip,snip. get me meaning Davey boy? now,from a more educated angle, WE WILL NOW SEE AN HONEST APPROACH TO A SITUATION,and heaven behold any crap spoken in this court. wonder if ACTIVISTS LIKE AA get called upon > that would be worth sitting up for DAVE,dont you think son? and look at NEWSON/GRANT /BAIRD pulling out all these suddenly dug up grave sites. how funny they… Read more »

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

DaveSampson75” ” and the figures are dodgey to”…now,please explain! AA supplied there figures taken from…. we now supplied detailed figures,accurate, because we now have educated people doing the maths for us. something NEWSON and the GRNSW HE IS IN CHARGE OF,UNDER HIS WATCH,could not do. NOT EVEN THE KEEPERS OF THE STUD RECORDS, GA, DID THAT. dodgey figures,where have I seen that before DAVID……..help me out son,oh yes,the figures(dodgey) supplied by AA to the MCHUGH COMMISSION and onto the animal slaughter king in BAIRD,and ,that’s right, lets add to those figures says BAIRDY BOY,and slaughter(where have I heard that word before)all animals.… Read more »

impact
impact
7 years ago

I call for Paul Newson to be sacked or removed what is he doing degrading GRNSW bringing the game into disrepute ….. Someone sack him

DaveSampson75
DaveSampson75
7 years ago

impact I dont know … I think he was pretty accurate when he wrote about the greyhound racing industry … ‘Some vicious passengers riding that ‘bus’.’

No SAV
No SAV
7 years ago

DaveSampson75 There is only one shade with you and it seems the colour black. What I read in your lines comes from a detached radical vigilante with no sense of purpose other than to please your own warped sense of worth. Very akin to the extremist minorities that need to fill a void in their lives to feel important and worthy although their real worth is questionable. Where did it all go wrong for you? Perhaps at birth? You and your mate, the long range imbecile from NZ  should get married because you both make it clear you are not… Read more »

DaveSampson75
DaveSampson75
7 years ago

while it has since been revealed that 55.4 per cent remain with owners/trainers or are re-homed, 25 per cent die from natural causes, 12.7 per cent are humanely euthanised due to injury or illness, with just 6.9 per cent being unnecessarily, humanely euthanised.” – Has it? Has it been revealed? Where? Where is the source? How did they find this out? Did they ask some mates? A little more info Katherine.  Not just presenting some figures and go ‘Uhh, its these figures that are all correct now, but dont question them, because I haven’t.’

No SAV
No SAV
7 years ago

DaveSampson75 You are a simpleton. You living under a rock? Look! Get off your arse. You spend too much time here and down the dole office. Keep up with it, goose. Everyone else knows but you. Educate yourself if that’s possible.

Get rid of this idiot.

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

No SAV DaveSampson75         that is it in a nutshell NO SAV. ”fill a void in there lives” covers it completely for activists. I tell you what they are good at SAV. short one or two liners,then wham,bam,gone. nigglers we call them. now people like HUGH,are the genuines,the real heart in activist. maybe in HUGHS case he is not an activist,he is a passionate lover of the animal,and there is a huge difference between the two so the NIGGLERS, THEY JUST COME ON LINE,HAVE A SAY,STIR US UP,AND ALSO CLEVERLY GET US TO GET PISSED OFF AND SPILL WHAT WE KNOW,THEN… Read more »

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

DaveSampson75 …..”HOW DID THEY FIND THAT OUT”? well SILLY DAVE, we researched. believe it or not,if one delves hard and deep enough,something the commission and AA did not do proper,we have our answers son. called GETTING OFF YOUR ARSE AND RESEARCHING(HUGH will be proud of that statement). see son, we have the moola to have people research and do the math……..unlike NEWSON and MCHUGH and co;, who guesstimated, and now people like you are staggered we have those resources and you feel flabbergasted of the results,and in the typical ACTIVISTS way, you elect to try and dishonour those figures. told… Read more »

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

now BAIRD is taking a sabbatical! word is,he struggled to explain the meaning of life to some unfortunate youths on a jaunt into NT. these youths,needed some guidance in there lives,that there is a paradise if you want to CLEAR YOUR EMOTIONS OF NEGATIVITY against life and others. bloody well done, I say, but………… here is a guy who authorises the MASS SLAUGHTER of  animals in his state,and then goes and preaches to these youths the facts of life? you must be kidding me. we couldn’t find anyone better than that? no wonder the youth of today revert to confrontations,because… Read more »

DaveSampson75
DaveSampson75
7 years ago

dogem53 DaveSampson75 lol 2 replies,  not a single source provided …. rofl.

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/good-news/tourist-gives-his-nike-shoes-to–homeless-man-in-guatemala-before-walking-away-barefoot/news-story/04639d35c57ec542edf5643cde922aef

BAIRD and co.

take a real good look at this vid,and the activists as well.

what is the message here>

GIVING.RESPECT.SHARING.LOVING.COMPASSION./fellow man/hardship………well,what would I be writing next?

John Tracey
John Tracey
7 years ago

Katherine, Just to pick you up on one point the term “unnecessary” where it appears in the protection of cruelty acts refers to unnecessary cruelty in the process of carrying out euthanasia not the euthanasia itself.  For example a cull of animals by gun fire is not regarded as cruel if it is done from the ground but it is regarded as cruel if it is done from the air as the potential to wound the animal and leave it to suffer is greater.  The converse that it is cruel in some instances not to euthanise an animal is not… Read more »

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

dogem53  Malcolm Turnbull went up in my estimation no end yesterday-  he is absolutely right Rudd is not suitable he is totally unsuitable. Since when does the world need some-one with a Messiah Complex chairing the UN. I bet the rest of the planet are relieved as well. 

Are you joking about Baird playing some role in the NT issue? Surely he cannot be that stupid?

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

DaveSampson75  Maybe if you didn’t spend all day on this site you could find out yourself- your research seems to consist of nothing more than quoting the latest newspaper estimates and the opinions of your mates Aaron and now your new found “liker” Jeff. 

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

impact  I think Baird might given what a stuff he has made.

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

DaveSampson75  Actually Dave population studies done by biologists all over the world on animal population trends would suggest natural causes would be much higher than this – so if they are lower it means people are providing such good care that they can bet the natural odds.

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

DaveSampson75  Only people against the industry got air time Dave maybe that is why they were not presented.

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

DaveSampson75 impact  There are some pretty vicious and dangerous people on the animals activists bus Dave

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

DaveSampson75  Gee Aaron I think you  might  have a contender for your God ordained role of “bringing the entire racing industry to it’s knees”. Some-one else appears to have a Messiah Complex as well-you need to watch this bloke he wants your job.  Don’t worry about Jeff he is actually smart enough to realise this is about far more than greyhounds- that’s why he has suddenly appeared defining people as Bogans a bit worried there might be some completion at the trough he guzzles out of.

Todman
Todman
7 years ago

Someone must have decided to let you rabbit on just to show everyone how absurd you are. It’s working, keep digging

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

Deborah555 dogem53 definitely not joking deb. Mike Baird24 July at 16:08 · Good morning from Kakadu! I’m off the grid for most of this week as part of “Project Uplift” – where a group of business leaders/sports stars/public figures (and a politician) spend a week trekking in the outback with some younger guys and girls from disadvantaged backgrounds to offer some mentoring and a listening ear. We’re a bit of a rag-tag group… Kirk Pengilly, Layne Beachley and Gail Kelly are back for another crack this year. And the new kid on the block this time is …Mark Donaldson VC. It’s… Read more »

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

Deborah555 KEVIN RUDD,TROY GRANT,PAUL NEWSON and one or two more should have gone on that trip to KAKADU….(tongue firmly fixed in cheeks).

croc country is it not?

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

No SAV DaveSampson75 nah SAV,let him have his day….passes my day,lol.

good for the soul to mock and laugh at others not so fortunate to see our world….lol

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

Todman  I wonder Todman do these young people realise the first thing a prospective employer does is check the internet for a bit of background. Unless an employer is looking for “essential qualities – the ability to troll on the internet and talk shyt” I doubt anyone would be impressed with some of their comments.

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

John Tracey  I gather John that you would have played a role whether official or otherwise as mediator on advisory boards.

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

http://www.9news.com.au/national/2016/07/30/03/34/labor-urges-mps-to-oppose-greyhound-ban the importance one like BAIRD or NEWSON or GRANT puts on discovering grave sites,amuses me. how come,UNDER NEWSONS WATCH OF THE PAST 12 MONTHS AND MORE,he as the so called leader of the GRNSW did not search,delve,and take action of those responsible for the alleged NEW FOUND GRAVES. it was on his watch,so he himself, is totally incapable of running anything,even a chook raffle,AND WITH A FINGER POINTING RIGHT AT HIM,HE WALKS AND PASSES THE BUCK. but,HE WAS CLEVER ENOUGH,TO withhold these findings until the well organised propaganda machine was let loose,that he is well entrenched in being part… Read more »

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

DAVE/AARON….disappointed you did not respond. playing with your POKEMONGO?

well the answer is………NONE OF THESE WORDS EXIST IN AN ACTIVISTS MANTRA.

the guy giving the shoes,could spend a day with you and explain in detail what that all meant to him.

learn something,then write it down in your mantras.

lol, laughing as I know there is no hope.

No SAV
No SAV
7 years ago

dogem53 No SAV DaveSampson75 Hughie Mungbean is just as devious as the rest, if not more so. He has just played the game longer and he holds a higher position on the manure heap. He is a hypocrite, self confessed, as they all are.

John Tracey
John Tracey
7 years ago

Katherine, this report just published in the Australian says it all.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/greyhound-racing-industry-dogged-to-its-death-by-social-licence/news-story/bcd1045f8b1d199fe2f98188bea698fa

PS. The Animal Justice vote percentage in the Senate was Nationally 1.2 percent, In Tasmania , South Australia ,NSW point eight-four) and WA it varied from about three quarters of a percent to just under percent ,Qld had just over one percent and Victoria close to two percent.

John Tracey
John Tracey
7 years ago

Deborah555 John Tracey You have picked me in one I was a former mediator member (post numerals) with the previous IAMA.

This will cheer you up.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/nation/greyhound-racing-industry-dogged-to-its-death-by-social-licence/news-story/bcd1045f8b1d199fe2f98188bea698fa

Incidentally I have been told that many of the newspaper reporters have been watching the site .

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

John Tracey beat me to it JOHN.

an excellent,truthful,straight to the jugular report.

in other words,he is saying what everyone wants to say……IT WAS RIGGED.MILLION OF CONSUMERS MONEY WASTED TO FATTEN THE MINORITY.

the minority. two words,but powerful words in the face of this situation.

smell that?

burning negs(better words can be used,but….)

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

John Tracey Deborah555  Thank you it did and no but thank you again.

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

John Tracey Deborah555 don’t tell me JOHN they are impressed by DAVE & ARRONS COMMENTS.

please don’t tell me that.please…..lol

John Tracey
John Tracey
7 years ago

dogem53 The Graveside publicity is straight out of the Greys2K report and tactics see the release details I put on another thread. There is a different culture concerning greyhound racing in America, to us. I respect America in a lot of ways but I am an Australian and prefer our culture of a fair go.. Probably special commissions don’t run exactly to natural justice but they need to be less than very smelly if the Premier believes that they lead to thousand of peoples and greyhounds receiving a life sentences.

MarionPurnell
MarionPurnell
7 years ago

The sport also sustains more than 1700 full time jobs, more than 1000 of those being in regional areas.”


Are you aware Katherine that GRNSW’s current position for the future of the code is to bring to an end all non-TAB racing and focus on solely TAB racing in NSW., ie, they plan to reduce the number of tracks from 34 to a maximum of 14.


How do you think this will affect regional  jobs?

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

MarionPurnell  Not GRNSW’s position lap dog Grant’s position.

MarionPurnell
MarionPurnell
7 years ago

Deborah555 MarionPurnell IF the industry survives past next July, like it or not, it will have to bring about a major reduction in it’s wastage figures in order to have any hope of a sustained continuation. How is this going to be achieved, except for reducing the number of dogs bred and consequently the number of races held which will consequently impact on the number of tracks required?

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

MarionPurnell Deborah555  I don’t know Marion why don’t you tell us you seem to think you know everything about racing and apparently every other issue on the planet as well.

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

John Tracey Deborah555  I read the comment you wrote at the end of the article- excellent and witty as well.

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

MarionPurnell Deborah555 MARION… I will agree with that comment. yes wasteage(hate that word but anyway)needs to be reduced. it will never be ZERO. nothing in this human life is that accurate. so,lets look at how. I see to many tracks in NSW that is a mindset of mine. I have raised satellite tracks to be positioned where least amount of damage will be done on the community. I know some will not like that,but NSW cannot sustain that amount of tracks ,even though many are manned by volunteers. I envisage these satellite tracks as being the equal of the best TAB… Read more »

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/mark-scott-mike-bairds-good-mate-scores-plum-job-with-the-nsw-education-department/news-story/8e13b06c4ed26d9448b522da461e8dd3

read with great interest please.

these are the sorts of details that place a slur on the GOVERNMENT.

of course,they will have a well readied answer about skills/qualified etc; etc; etc;, but wasn’t BAIRD also involved in the EDDIE OBEID scandal?(not a NSW person,so need advice here).

jobs for mates,but also the chain of links of BAIRDS sister connected to ABC, who just happen to be the GREENS driving force behind stopping greyhound racing.

sort of like drawing the RED BOX ALL THE TIME hey?

what is that smell?

Deborah555
Deborah555
7 years ago

dogem53  corruption? nepotism? poo?

dogem53
dogem53
7 years ago

https://www.dropbox.com/s/xil74qvfaacdfvm/29.7.16 Greyhound Mark Story.wmv?dl=0

well premier. what says you?

John Tracey
John Tracey
7 years ago

The prompt I put on the site for the Australian Newspaper for the Greyhound Article featuring on the front of Saturday’s Paper and a full cover on page 8. Is a subscriber only item and is now not showing on the prompts.

You need to get the article and read it

John Tracey
John Tracey
7 years ago

Deborah555 John Tracey

Thanks for alerting me on the prompt difficulty  it previously contained the Australian Article on line but it is restricted to

Subscribers and purchasers of the paper.

I don’t want to break copy rights so people need to get it.

No SAV
No SAV
7 years ago

MarionPurnell Deborah555 Another who suffers from selective blindness? Why do you time wasters not see what is in front of you and only see what suits – all little amateur pollies, aren’t you? Breeding numbers are already reduced by over half – don’t you know? – haven’t looked? – don’t want to look? It’s ok, I’ve looked for you. More than 50% reduction in breeding means more than 50% in wastage, Marion. Pretty simple math really. No need to strain the brain because I’ll do that for you too. This is NOW, the present, the reality, not fabrication of figures. New… Read more »