Greg Board slams GRNSW decision to suspend dogs

LEADING breeder and owner Greg Board is shocked at the decision by (GRNSW) to suspend two of his promising pups in the wake of the controversial live-baiting scandal. 



Board, who is the owner of boom sire , had two pups at the property of Zeke ‘Ziggy’ Kadir when the raids were conducted in February, but was only told last Friday his youngsters had been stood down.



“They (GRNSW) rang me on Friday and told me that they were suspended — not to try and name them, sell them or do anything with them,” Board said.



“They microchipped all the dogs on the property when they did the raids, so I think it is a little bit late to be doing this — if they were that worried about it then why didn’t they do something there and then?”



The unnamed greyhounds had only been at Kadir’s property for a matter of days and, according to Broad, were there for a bit of fine tuning.



“I broke them in myself and they were going very fast so I just wanted to make sure that they had a bit of box work so I sent them down there for five or six days just to have a bit of practice,” Board explained.

Board says it has been a similar story for his friend, who is new to the industry, and is now feeling very discouraged and deflated by the whole ordeal. 



“I have got another mate, its the first time he has had dogs in his life and he has reared a litter of Spring Guns – they are beautiful dogs and he is only a battler- but they have told him the same thing. His little girls had already picked out the dogs names and now he is shattered.”



This is not the first time in recent weeks that Board has been affected by the scandal, with one of his star performers, Armed And Ready, suspended by Greyhound after was also stood down.



“I missed out the Ballarat Derby with Armed and Ready because they scratched him and he was going to take a hell of a lot of beating. I am waiting for my barrister to get back to me to see about some compensation for that. 



“How is it legal that we are getting punished? They can’t tell you what you can do with your own dogs. They have no evidence that my dogs were blooded.”

Board, who has been in the industry for over 40 years, says the actions taken by the authorities to suspend his young dogs has been an overreaction to a despicable practice. 


“It is very disappointing. I know what happened (the live baiting) shouldn’t have happened but we have got to move on from it,” he said.



“If they are talking about closing down the industry because of what has happened they may as well close down all of the Catholic schools in Australia for what the priests do and the Police force for all the corruption that goes on, it would be never ending. The world has gone mad.”



GRNSW confirmed on Monday in a press release it had suspended 28 greyhounds which were in the possession of participants currently suspended and under investigation for alleged live baiting incidents, however the statement did not mention any unnamed greyhounds such as Board’s which may also be affected.



Australian Racing Greyhound was able to confirm with GRNSW there are also unnamed greyhounds that have been implicated by the suspensions but, unlike the named greyhounds, they will be assessed on a case-by-case basis if and when GRNSW receive their naming applications.



The suspended greyhounds will not be able to compete or be nominated for any events, sold or transferred into the care, custody and training of any other person until their respective inquiries are finalised. 



The named greyhounds are — Almost Quoted, Aussie Quoted, , Beyond, Bleiswijk Billy, Boss Electro, Cee Cee Quoted, Club Shiraz, Combat Shiraz, Disclosure, Fezz, Kevin In Bangkok, Lucky Quoted, Mighty Quoted, Monkey’s Uncle, No No Notorious, Now Quoted, , Raramuri, Ryno’s Raider, Stilton Combat, Stilton Riverboy, Steel Rose, Tarks Black Rose, Topper Blue, Turtleman, Unbroken and Viva La Moon
.

GRNSW said that the suspensions were pre-emptive in order to prioritise animal welfare and the of the sport and reflect its zero tolerance attitude towards cruelty to animals.

GRNSW said if they were to identify any other greyhounds exposed to live-baiting practices then they too would be suspended until an inquiry had been completed.



In its release, GRNSW said that the its inquiry will include an assessment into the adverse affects associated with live-baiting and that any decisions to life suspensions would be based upon expert veterinary advise.

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Dave Kiernan
Dave Kiernan
6 years ago

Our industry doesn’t need the anti greyhound lobby to destroy our industry, our administrators are doing a fine job on their own. I had a greyhound caught up in this mess which I sold in early December and it is now under suspension. It has since won and been placed and the purchasers, like me are now innocent parties being penalized for the actions of others.  Where do either of us stand? How will we ever attract owners to the game if they are penalized by the actions of their trainers. What will now happen to greyhounds that are subject to… Read more »

John Edwards wa
John Edwards wa
6 years ago

i feel the administrators are as damaging the greyhound industry at the moment.who is looking after the interests of the owners that have dogs in limbo at the moment..the owners who did no wrong. who is looking after their interests.when this debacle is over.do you think people will want to invest money in an industry that can confiscate greyhounds.when the owner has done no wrong.prosecute the criminals but at least have an australia wide meeting updating.the industry on a weekly basis .i can understand dogs in the name of the accused being stopped from racing but surely these owners and… Read more »

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

I am not going to comment on the legality and suspension of any greyhounds found in the possession of an alleged live baiting trainer. But I will say this, innocent dogs and owners penalised by the illegal actions of their trainer have a legal case against that trainer. The trainer has an obligation to exercise due care. To prevent harm to and not cause harm to, the greyhounds entrusted into their care. As live baiting is an illegal activity with clear penalties under common law and also regulatory rules, the trainers have breached their duty of care. Redress through the courts in the form… Read more »

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

John Edwards wa In future it would be a good idea to include the following when placing a dog with a trainer; “Do you use live bait in the preparation of greyhounds for racing.” It’s a yes or no answer. It’s not enough to assume they don’t anymore. If the answer is yes, you simply go elsewhere. Owners can protect themselves and their dogs.

John Edwards wa
John Edwards wa
6 years ago

Unfairly Tarred John Edwards wa the various boards approved these people to be public trainers the duty of care is for the administrators to do this.clearly with the number of people  involved the relevant authorities had a duty of care in registering these people as public trainers. the buck stops with the registration bodies  they had a duty of care to the owners that the people approved as public trainers were above board.i think the people whose job it was to make sure registered persons were above board and complied with the law will be found to have failed in their… Read more »

John Edwards wa
John Edwards wa
6 years ago

Unfairly Tarred John Edwards wa i haven’t  heard of anyone admitting to live baiting.and anyone who was doing it is going to say they didn’t.so you buy 2 fast pups and a race dog for $40000 next week the trainer gets identified as a live baiter.where am i protected.what recourse do i have.what is the industry doing to protect owners .maybe the industry should organise a 24 hour good to purchase certificate where people can purchase dogs with peace of mind

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

John Edwards wa Unfairly Tarred So when you kill someone with your motor vehicle, it is the authorities fault for granting you a licence in the first place? When I applied for my trainers licence, I had a police check. No where on the application form did it ask me whether I intended to participate in live baiting. No where on the form did it ask whether I intended to break the rules. NO, what it did ask was did I declare I would abide by the rules. Until a crime has been committed there is no legal ability to exclude. Your… Read more »

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

John Edwards wa Unfairly Tarred Again personal responsibility, due diligence. Did you do this before entrusting your dogs to this particular trainer? Did you ask the question? Did you know? Always protect yourself. Due diligence. That is your job.

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

John Edwards wa Unfairly Tarred The contract clause I included above was to safe guard yourself. Correct, no one will admit to live baiting, but the clause excludes you from any crime if your trainer were caught. You entrusted your dog to a trainer who declared he was not involved in live baiting. It would make it easier for you to get your dogs back if they were impounded and suspended.

We talk animal welfare
We talk animal welfare
6 years ago

Why are the greyhounds being punished. We talk about animal welfare. Most of these dogs are kept in peak condition and well looked after Suspending these dogs long term will probably see them put down. We again talk about animal welfare!! Punish the trainers not the dogs. I am sure there are a few public trainers that would be more than happy to take these dogs on. Stop punishing the dogs!

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

We talk animal welfare Why the heck would they be put down, where would you get that idea. My understanding is they are being assessed by qualified vets. Part of the assessment is ensuring the dogs have suffered no long term harm. Also, one state at least is making sure that the dogs are released into a safe environment once the assessment has been completed. Who would confiscate dogs under the welfare act, and then disregard the dogs welfare once in their care. That is just scaremongering. Statements like that are just as bad as the rubbish so called animal welfare groups… Read more »

The Tout
The Tout
6 years ago

its sad and I have lost all train of thought about these happenings I will never know what GRNSW was thinking when they pulled this stunt on and to me it is a stunt because they know nothing of how to solve the problem and the way they have gone about the problem this time is just too ridiculous to be believed.We had a guy get 2 yrs I think for a positive to Cocaine we had another get 7 yrs reduced to a couple of yrs for his misdemeanour with his enebriated dogs in a race at the Gardens.Now… Read more »

John Edwards wa
John Edwards wa
6 years ago

The rap a confiscate thousands of animals a year. If they don’t find s home . Where do you think they end up?

mikk
mikk
6 years ago

As unfair as it is to innocent owners, I think all these dogs should be suspended for at least six months. If any of them were to win a race in the near future the suspicion that they were live baited would be intolerable to the public. 
Owners should have provisions in their training contracts to cover misconduct like this and recover damages from the guilty parties.

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

Official Info available: GRNSW stewards issued notices of suspension under the Greyhounds Australasia rule 92 (5) and local rule 92. Under the rules, the suspended greyhounds shall not be allowed to compete or nominate for any race until their respective inquiries are finalised. The relevant greyhounds are also not permitted to be sold or transferred to the care, custody or training of any other person. In suspending the greyhounds, GRNSW is prioritising animal welfare and the integrity of the sport. The suspensions also reflect GRNSW’s zero tolerance stance toward the mistreatment of animals. The suspensions are a pre-emptive move to ensure… Read more »

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

That pretty much sums up the situation in NSW. Hundreds of dogs are not being euthanized. Owners will get there dogs back if they are compliant. So stop with the doom and gloom, the BS stories. It is about the dogs and for the dogs.

Hugh_
Hugh_
6 years ago

Zeke Kadir was known as a great “live baiter”.  How can an owner claim to be so ignorant of the reputation of the person they are paying to train their dog?  Get real.  If I’m going to trust someone to train my animal I’m going to do my homework.  You can’t just claim ignorance and expect there to be no consequences, owners have responsibilities too.  Claiming you had no idea of the person’s training methods is a laughable defence.

The Tout
The Tout
6 years ago

Hugh_ you wouldn’t have a clue what anyone is doing with your pup when you send it away because you pay for something doesn’t mean to say that is what you get remember that I educated a lot of pups and all my own on top of that and I can assure you nobody knew what I was doing.See if you sent a pup to me for box work I would find the personality of the pup and work from there but I would never jump any pup or dog out of the boxes onto any arm and rail ….

AaronC_GPLNZ
6 years ago

Good times

Dave Kiernan
Dave Kiernan
6 years ago

Our industry doesn’t need the anti greyhound lobby to destroy our industry, our administrators are doing a fine job on their own. I had a greyhound caught up in this mess which I sold in early December and it is now under suspension. It has since won and been placed and the purchasers, like me are now innocent parties being penalized for the actions of others.  Where do either of us stand? How will we ever attract owners to the game if they are penalized by the actions of their trainers. What will now happen to greyhounds that are subject to… Read more »

John Edwards wa
John Edwards wa
6 years ago

i feel the administrators are as damaging the greyhound industry at the moment.who is looking after the interests of the owners that have dogs in limbo at the moment..the owners who did no wrong. who is looking after their interests.when this debacle is over.do you think people will want to invest money in an industry that can confiscate greyhounds.when the owner has done no wrong.prosecute the criminals but at least have an australia wide meeting updating.the industry on a weekly basis .i can understand dogs in the name of the accused being stopped from racing but surely these owners and… Read more »

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

I am not going to comment on the legality and suspension of any greyhounds found in the possession of an alleged live baiting trainer. But I will say this, innocent dogs and owners penalised by the illegal actions of their trainer have a legal case against that trainer. The trainer has an obligation to exercise due care. To prevent harm to and not cause harm to, the greyhounds entrusted into their care. As live baiting is an illegal activity with clear penalties under common law and also regulatory rules, the trainers have breached their duty of care. Redress through the courts in the form… Read more »

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

John Edwards wa In future it would be a good idea to include the following when placing a dog with a trainer; “Do you use live bait in the preparation of greyhounds for racing.” It’s a yes or no answer. It’s not enough to asume they don’t anymore. If the answer is yes, you simply go elsewhere. Owners can protect themselves and their dogs.

John Edwards wa
John Edwards wa
6 years ago

Unfairly Tarred John Edwards wa the various boards approved these people to be public trainers the duty of care is for the administrators to do this.clearly with the number of people  involved the relevant authorities had a duty of care in registering these people as public trainers. the buck stops with the registration bodies  they had a duty of care to the owners that the people approved as public trainers were above board.i think the people whose job it was to make sure registered persons were above board and complied with the law will be found to have failed in their… Read more »

John Edwards wa
John Edwards wa
6 years ago

Unfairly Tarred John Edwards wa i haven’t  heard of anyone admitting to live baiting.and anyone who was doing it is going to say they didn’t.so you buy 2 fast pups and a race dog for next week the trainer gets identified as a live baiter.where am i protected.what recourse do i have.what is the industry doing to protect owners .maybe the industry should organise a 24 hour good to purchase certificate where people can purchase dogs with peace of mind

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

John Edwards wa Unfairly Tarred So when you kill someone with your motor vehicle, it is the authorities fault for granting you a licence in the first place? When I applied for my trainers licence, I had a police check. No where on the application form did it ask me whether I intended to participate in live baiting. No where on the form did it ask whether I intended to break the rules. NO, what it did ask was did I declare I would abide by the rules. Until a crime has been committed there is no legal ability to exclude. Your… Read more »

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

John Edwards wa Unfairly Tarred Again personal responsibility, due diligence. Did you do this before entrusting your dogs to this particular trainer? Did you ask the question? Did you know? Always protect yourself. Due diligence. That is your job.

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

John Edwards wa Unfairly Tarred The contract clause I included above was to safe guard yourself. Correct, no one will admit to live baiting, but the clause excludes you from any crime if your trainer were caught. You entrusted your dog to a trainer who declared he was not involved in live baiting. It would make it easier for you to get your dogs back if they were impounded and suspended.

We talk animal welfare
We talk animal welfare
6 years ago

Why are the greyhounds being punished. We talk about animal welfare. Most of these dogs are kept in peak condition and well looked after Suspending these dogs long term will probably see them put down. We again talk about animal welfare!! Punish the trainers not the dogs. I am sure there are a few public trainers that would be more than happy to take these dogs on. Stop punishing the dogs!

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

We talk animal welfare Why the heck would they be put down, where would you get that idea. My understanding is they are being assessed by qualified vets. Part of the assessment is ensuring the dogs have suffered no long term harm. Also, one state at least is making sure that the dogs are released into a safe environment once the assessment has been completed. Who would confiscate dogs under the welfare act, and then disregard the dogs welfare once in their care. That is just scaremongering. Statements like that are just as bad as the rubbish so called animal welfare groups… Read more »

The Tout
The Tout
6 years ago

its sad and I have lost all train of thought about these happenings I will never know what GRNSW was thinking when they pulled this stunt on and to me it is a stunt because they know nothing of how to solve the problem and the way they have gone about the problem this time is just too ridiculous to be believed.We had a guy get 2 yrs I think for a positive to Cocaine we had another get 7 yrs reduced to a couple of yrs for his misdemeanour with his enebriated dogs in a race at the Gardens.Now… Read more »

John Edwards wa
John Edwards wa
6 years ago

The rap a confiscate thousands of animals a year. If they don’t find s home . Where do you think they end up?

mikk
mikk
6 years ago

As unfair as it is to innocent owners, I think all these dogs should be suspended for at least six months. If any of them were to win a race in the near future the suspicion that they were live baited would be intolerable to the public. 

Owners should have provisions in their training contracts to cover misconduct like this and recover damages from the guilty parties.

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

Official Info available: GRNSW stewards issued notices of suspension under the Greyhounds Australasia rule 92 (5) and local rule 92. Under the rules, the suspended greyhounds shall not be allowed to compete or nominate for any race until their respective inquiries are finalised. The relevant greyhounds are also not permitted to be sold or transferred to the care, custody or training of any other person. In suspending the greyhounds, GRNSW is prioritising animal welfare and the integrity of the sport. The suspensions also reflect GRNSW’s zero tolerance stance toward the mistreatment of animals. The suspensions are a pre-emptive move to ensure… Read more »

Unfairly Tarred
Unfairly Tarred
6 years ago

That pretty much sums up the situation in NSW. Hundreds of dogs are not being euthanized. Owners will get there dogs back if they are compliant. So stop with the doom and gloom, the BS stories. It is about the dogs and for the dogs.

Hugh_
Hugh_
6 years ago

Zeke Kadir was known as a great “live baiter”.  How can an owner claim to be so ignorant of the reputation of the person they are paying to train their dog?  Get real.  If I’m going to trust someone to train my animal I’m going to do my homework.  You can’t just claim ignorance and expect there to be no consequences, owners have responsibilities too.  Claiming you had no idea of the person’s training methods is a laughable defence.

The Tout
The Tout
6 years ago

Hugh_ you wouldn’t have a clue what anyone is doing with your pup when you send it away because you pay for something doesn’t mean to say that is what you get remember that I educated a lot of pups and all my own on top of that and I can assure you nobody knew what I was doing.See if you sent a pup to me for box work I would find the personality of the pup and work from there but I would never jump any pup or dog out of the boxes onto any arm and rail ….

AaronC_GPLNZ
6 years ago

Good times