Industry & Politicians continue to fight despite Baird’s obduracy

THE greyhound racing industry is determined to keep the pressure on the New South Wales Premier at an all time high as Mike Baird continues to back his plan to outlaw the sport within the state.

Following a rally on Tuesday where over 2,500 participants flocked to Hyde Park and marched to Parliament house, Baird met with representatives from the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party as well as the Christian Democrat Party on Wednesday morning to discuss the future of the industry.

However, Rev. Fred Nile from the Christian Democratic Party said Baird’s attitude was steadfast.

“Very disappointing…he seems to have made a decision and he isn’t going to back down on what he has announced,” Nile said on 2GB.

“We just have to keep the pressure on him and I’ll move in the Parliament to establish a greyhound industry oversight committee from both houses of Parliament.

“I think he has been emotionally affected by that Four Corner’s ABC program – that’s all he kept talking about.

“We want to clean the industry up – stop the live baiting.

“We won’t give up.”

Despite the disappointment, Brenton Scott, CEO of the NSW Greyhound Breeders, Owners and Trainers Association said Tuesday’s rally was beneficial both as a means of protesting the ban and allowing participants to come together and support each other.

“The rally gave participants the opportunity to stand shoulder to shoulder and share their pain and frustration for what has been a profoundly unfair decision,” Scott told Australian Racing Greyhound.

“It also allowed them to send the fundamental message that a large group of good, decent, law abiding people who have done not one thing wrong are paying the penalty for the actions of a very small minority.

“I think that was expressed elegantly and at the same time strongly.

“It was an important exercise both in terms of its message and the support that participants were able to provide for one another.”

Scott said while the Premier is refusing to budge on his judgement, it is positive to see so many MPs join together to fight the ban in unison with the industry.

“It is extremely encouraging that the number of politicians from all parties represented in the parliament are prepared to sit back and acknowledge that there are question marks all over this decision.

“You have got parties like the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers and the Christian Democrats forming an unlikely coalition, coming from different ideologies and yet they share the same principals and think that this industry needs to be treated fairly.

“You also have the break out positions from within both the Liberal and National parties that are saying they are not convinced that this has been a fair process.

“We must take heart in the fact that so many people with differing political backgrounds are seeing that this decision isn’t fair…particularly when there is an alternative in place.

“No one is saying that there aren’t issues that we have to deal with, but everybody recognises that the industry has commenced change and that the industry can be held to account and they see that’s the role of the government – not to pre-judge an industry’s capacity to change.”

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DaveSampson75
DaveSampson75
4 years ago

The number of people who attended keep growing each passing day … now its 2500? I suspect by the end of the week over 5000 will have attended this rally.

Peter Bell
Peter Bell
4 years ago

DaveSampson75 Are the little boys busy champ ???

The figure in my guestimates was somewhere in between 1500 to 2500. There is no way the number was less than 1200. Unless some simpleton public servant did a head count nobody was ever going to know. Obviously they were busy working for the ABC and running GRNSW.

JeffWhite4
JeffWhite4
4 years ago

DaveSampson75 LOL! The Shooters Fishers Farmers and Greyhound Abusers Party says 3,500!!

http://www.shootersfishersandfarmers.org.au/borsak_leads_protest_march_supporting_greyhound_racing

John Tracey
John Tracey
4 years ago

Peter Bell DaveSampson75 Peter, The estimates on the anti greyhound racing at Hyde Park were in various quarters as low as 80 and as high as 300. Whichever end of the scale you accept the figures were a large advancement in percentages compared to the groups attendance at the hearing of the Parliamentary Inquiry’s at both Penrith and at the Mitchell Library in Sydney (including the Street rally at Martin Place. The animal welfare promotion previously at Mudgee saw different times for the entry of the greyhound people and a single gate for people attending the animal welfare rally which was… Read more »

John Tracey
John Tracey
4 years ago

Peter Bell DaveSampson75 For completion further information has come to hand of an Estimate of the crowd at Parliament house of 3,500 from the shooter , fishers and Farmers party so my post should read between 1500 and 3500 not 3,000.

My point is that these figures do not factor in the crowd that left the Rally at Hyde Park and did not attend the March (explained in the above post).

dogem53
dogem53
4 years ago

DaveSampson75 2501 I heard!!!!!!

dogem53
dogem53
4 years ago

JeffWhite4 DaveSampson75 the only figure I hear on your mind was always(38-24-32)……..surprised you venture out of normal PLAYBOY pages to view any figures!!!!

ANTIS AND BAIRDS figures…well, lets say this,better to stick ya heads back in the pages of PLAYBOY or POKEMON GO……..head is always down then.

dogem53
dogem53
4 years ago

DaveSampson75 DAVE…….. I got these figures direct from MR. McHugh that he was informed of an ACCURATE RATED CROWD OF……………2501              GIVE OR TAKE A THOUSAND…….SAID IT WAS CLOSE ENUFF AND HE WAS HAPPY TO PUT THAT IN PRINT………..WITH A RIDER HE CAN DELETE ALONG SIDE HIS COMMISSION STATS IF NEED BE…………..LOL.HAHAHAHA….LOL WHEN DOES IT STOP.

dogem53
dogem53
4 years ago

NSW Greyhound chief has phone and laptop seized after leaks Chief Steward of Greyhound Racing NSW, Clint Bentley. The Australian12:00AM August 4, 2016 Save 7 HEDLEY THOMAS National Chief CorrespondentBrisbane The laptop computer and mobile phone of the chief steward of Greyhound Racing NSW, Clint Bentley, have been confiscated for an examination of email and call records after sensitive ­excerpts from legal documents were published in The Weekend Australian. The legal documents included submissions by his solicitor John Laxon, who highlighted alleged unfairness and flawed reasoning in the Baird government’s special commission of inquiry. The disclosure of the material has… Read more »

dogem53
dogem53
4 years ago

lol……BAIRD is floundering. reverts to stand over tactics does he.

if staff feel victimised,and they may be losing there jobs,DISCRIMINATION ACT comes to mind.

give it a go.

watch RAY HADLEY/ALAN JONES go to town on the back of this. whoopee, love seeing bullies get taken down.

BobWhitelaw
BobWhitelaw
4 years ago

DaveSampson75 Its a pity those who playing guessing games with numbers had no idea who was there , the word was they were having breakfast with Peter Singer after a night all together trying to justify their  their place on earth  ! and we all know what  his favorite past time is,and its not sharing human affections between two consenting adults and they pretend to have morals .

BobWhitelaw
BobWhitelaw
4 years ago

JeffWhite4 DaveSampson75 Sign reads  Adopt a Greyhound   how many do you dog daters have? Since Newson starting closing the Industry the numbers here have doubled  I did have a good working relation ship with The Friends Of Hounds with foster care for the dogs waiting to be rehomed. Now not one word from these so called animal lovers. Now some of these DOGs  are bound for BAIRDS Crematorium  so tell me is that  what’s adopting  greyhound is all about ? Its about what good Greyhound owners want for their Greyhounds,they love to chase no matter what it is .So when… Read more »

CRAZYCRAW
CRAZYCRAW
4 years ago

There is more to this ban than just  animal welfare issues. Mike Baird has reduced this to a class debate. Recommendation 64 in the McHugh. Report reads “if the racing codes cannot agree on a more equitable distribution of TAB revenue, the Parliament of NSW should legislate to amend the current arrangements by providing for a distribution that reflects each codes contribution to TAB revenue.” Of the three racing codes in NSW Greyhound Racing earns over 22% of turnover yet only receives 13% in distribution. With the ban on Greyhound Racing in NSW this inequity need not be resolved and… Read more »

Deborah555
Deborah555
4 years ago

DaveSampson75  sort of like the number of dogs claimed to have been killed really they just keep increasing apparently that OK but a variation between newspapers of between 1500 and 3000 is some sinister conspiracy theory. Dave you and your new “liker” are displaying your hypocrisy.

Deborah555
Deborah555
4 years ago

JeffWhite4 DaveSampson75  Gee you’re getting desperate for an argument.

Deborah555
Deborah555
4 years ago

BobWhitelaw JeffWhite4 DaveSampson75  Bob I would have ticked 10 likes on this  but you cannot.

Deborah555
Deborah555
4 years ago

Baird’s ego and his belief he is God would not let him admit he has made a mess. His ego will eventually take a serious dent went respectable right leaning politicians are condemning him.

The only effect the 4 corners programme would have had on him was “beauty I’ve got em must ring X at the ABC and thank them or better  get one of my staff to twitter it after she checks to see if it reeks of compassion.” If you have to ask your staff how to appear compassionate obviously you have no actual experience with the feeling..

dogem53
dogem53
4 years ago

Deborah555 DEBORAH……

on other topic he,BAIRD and his two gestapo cronies,GRANT/NEWSON, will be going to church quite often,as heaps of free time is coming.

the continual stuff ups between each others departments(intentionally???)is bringing embarrassment and death to all three. they will lucky to be in a role within a month(or sooner)

AND BAIRD PAID HOW MUCH TO BE EDUCATED ON HOW TO USE SOCIAL MEDIA….K I BELIEVE……..GET YA MONEY BACK DROP KICK.

Deborah555
Deborah555
4 years ago

dogem53 Deborah555  Yes if I was a liberal or green rep in NSW I would be getting very worried about my seat and maybe get off the other seat and move it a few yards across the floor. Yes the Tacky Trio will bring them all down if they don’t do something. He slashed the education budget in the prisons must have used some of the money to supposedly educate himself. Money would obviously have been better spent in the prisons. K- he would have some girl in the office doing his twitter shit anyway and then blame her when he… Read more »

Deborah555
Deborah555
4 years ago

JeffWhite4 DaveSampson75  Actually I thought it was an excellent article now I have had a read.

DaveSampson75
DaveSampson75
4 years ago

John Tracey Peter Bell DaveSampson75 3500 now …. rofl … you may just make that 5000 figure I mooted earlier by Saturday at this rate! 

DaveSampson75
DaveSampson75
4 years ago

BobWhitelaw JeffWhite4 DaveSampson75 I have two rescue greyhounds which for my current circumstances is all I can take in without compromising the wellbeing of my existing two, so I think Im doing my fair share at digging the industry out of the whole it created itself.

John Tracey
John Tracey
4 years ago

Deborah555 Reminds me of an Indian Running Duck, gobbles all in front of him and passes things from the rear end for those behind him.

John Tracey
John Tracey
4 years ago

CRAZYCRAW Hi Steve, In the telegraph today the premier gives his reason that horse racing is Okay because most countries have it and only a few have greyhounds. I hope he is not reported correctly because this would mean that it is alright to be “cruel” to animals as long as a lot of countries are doing it.  The horses export to countries that Greyhound Australia is trying to place export bans on. The same welfare laws in the same country but it is OK for one and not the other. Following my Indian Running Duck inference what is good… Read more »

Paddo
Paddo
4 years ago

I thought we lived in a Democracy where both sides get a fair hearing. What happened to that process?

This stance taken by Baird is dictatorial and reminiscent of Adolf Hitler.

John Tracey
John Tracey
4 years ago

In the Telegraph today the premier gives his reason that horse racing is Okay is because most countries have it and only a few have greyhounds. I hope he is not reported correctly because this would mean that it is alright to be “cruel” to animals as long as a lot of countries are doing it.  The horses export to countries that Greyhound Australia is trying to place export bans on. The same welfare laws in the same country but it is OK for one and not the other. PS I don’t think either racing code is inherently cruel but… Read more »

Paddo
Paddo
4 years ago

John Tracey CRAZYCRAW If a horse is not fast enough in the horse industry it ends up as dog food, how is that social licence OK with Baird but not for greyhounds? 

I’m sorry Mr Baird – please explain?  

Paddo
Paddo
4 years ago

Mr Baird, if a horse is not fast enough in the horse racing industry it ends up as dog food, how is their “social licence” OK with you but not OK for greyhounds? 

I’m sorry Mr Baird – please explain?

Paddo
Paddo
4 years ago

I find it strange that Victoria which has the exact same issues in the Greyhound Industry can implement reforms for a better future,  but NSW can’t.

Baird is not trying and needs to resign so we can get somebody that can.

lone widow
lone widow
4 years ago

DaveSampson75 BobWhitelaw JeffWhite4  But you lot want to return all the animals back to nature. You could let em go in the bush an get another couple.

Deborah555
Deborah555
4 years ago

John Tracey Deborah555  exactly John

CRAZYCRAW
CRAZYCRAW
4 years ago

John Tracey CRAZYCRAW Agreed John his reasoning is wrong. By his analogy should we ban Rugby League simply because it is only a commercial success in only a handful of countries? Who would determine if Rugby League should have a social license, maybe the socially enlightened Greens Party could guide us?

FredBarton
FredBarton
4 years ago

“No one is saying that there aren’t issues that we have to deal with, but everybody recognises that the industry has commenced change and that the industry can be held to account and they see that’s the role of the government – not to pre-judge an industry’s capacity to change.” You miss the point Mr. Scott.The live baiting scandal, among others, is a symptom and I’d like to believe Mr. Baird realized that when he decided on a ban rather than further regulation. This isn’t about the “industry’s capacity to change” because no amount of change can alter the fact… Read more »

Deborah555
Deborah555
4 years ago

Paddo  yes it is Paddo particularly when he is humiliating and discrediting respected senior public servants in GRNSW for doing their job properly and using some-one he has appointed to spy on them to help him do that, yes it is a worry for democracy.

Deborah555
Deborah555
4 years ago

DaveSampson75 BobWhitelaw JeffWhite4  Dave- Can you just find a spot for another lap dog called Newson who I think might be looking for a home soon. If he thinks Baird will support him after this mess he is kidding himself. He might be a bit big to carry in one of those trendy little carrier bags but I think he would probably fit under the table at some trendy north shore bar and he can then bite the hand that feeds him under the table.