What does Paul Toole as NSW Racing Minister mean for greyhounds?

STATE Bathurst MP Paul Toole has been announced as the Racing Minister following a cabinet reshuffle which took place under new NSW’s Premier, Gladys Berejiklian.

The news was met with dismay by many greyhound racing participants, with Toole on record as a supporter of former Premier Mike Baird’s now defunct greyhound racing ban.

Toole voted with his coalition colleagues to bring in the ban when the Greyhound Racing Prohibition Bill passed through the lower house in early August.

Despite conversing with innocent participants who were set to lose their livelihoods, Toole ignored their pleas and voted with his party in banning the sport.

“While I strongly condemn the unacceptable treatment of greyhounds, I am concerned by the impact that the Government’s decision will have on members of my community who have done the right thing,” Toole said at the time.

“Since the Government’s announcement on 7 July 2015, I have met with stakeholders from across the industry, including trainers, owners, breeders, veterinarians, suppliers and members of the community who enjoy a punt, and even with people who have never been to a greyhound race in their lives.

“I have listened to their concerns. I understand and deeply regret their personal fears and their fears about the financial impact that this decision will have on them. There are strong and diverse views in my electorate and I have taken all of them on board.

“I have read every letter and the representations that have been sent to my office. I have raised those concerns directly with those involved. I will continue to work tirelessly to ensure that the necessary support and assistance will be forthcoming to those law-abiding members of the industry whose livelihoods are changed.

“I am committed to ensuring that there is a smooth transition and that support is provided for various circumstances.

“I acknowledge that for many in the industry greyhound racing is more than just an income, more than just a job and more than just a hobby. The greyhounds that they care for and train have become part of their family.

“The greyhounds that race represent their hard work, their passion and their life. I acknowledge also that for some greyhound owners the industry has been all that they have known. That is why I am committed to assisting my constituents to access the necessary support available through a transition process.”

Whilst Baird announced the ban would be reversed last October, there have been far reaching side effects for the government over the past few months.

In November, the Nationals Party lost the seat of Orange for the first time since 1947, with the Shooters, Fishers and Farmers Party’s Phil Donato clinching victory by 50 votes.

The massive swing against the Nationals cost former Deputy Premier and leader of the Nationals Troy Grant, who was also the former Racing Minister, his job, with the Dubbo MP stepping down as leader and replaced with John Barilaro.

Then, on January 18, Mike Baird announced his resignation as Premier and from politics effective immediately, citing family reasons for his departure.

The NSW Greyhound Racing Prohibition Bill is still yet to be officially repealed, however it is expected to happen soon after Parliament resumes for the year next month.

Past Discussion

  1. Bathurst is ready to lynch this bloke I will never trust him his name is mud around town. The only benefit is he will be doing what he can to put a good taste in people’s mouths so I’m sure he will throw money around like he has been doing in town for the last 2 weeks to win votes back. Maybe Bathurst will get an upgrade \U0001f602\U0001f602\U0001f602

  2. Toole will be absolutely obliterated at the polls next election…We just have to buckle in tight for the ride till then and he will be a memory.

  3. not much of an explanation of what it means for greyhounds…. just a history lesson.

    Cant be any worse than the lefty that was in there before him

  4. It would have been great to see the members that crossed the floor on the greyhound issue get rewarded but they made the decision realising that they lost any power base they had to progress. Hopefully the penalty will not be permanent. In the end the cabinet decided to reverse the ban.

    The Minister reshuffle is massive and it also involves many Ministers having reshuffled portfolio’s (different tasks within the ministers departments.

    The former Deputy Premier has lost most of his portfolios, including Justice, the Arts, and Racing.

    The recommended reforms to greyhound racing cut across many portfolio’s and Departments.

    The most interesting appointment to me is the Ex Mayor of Gunnedah (member for the Northern Tablelands) winning the Minister for Tourism and Major Events, from memory the member was a great supporter of greyhound racing when he was running the council.

  5. TOOLE by name only for his sake….lol

    honestly,i cannot see him daring to attempt to try the same trick twice on the greyhound industry.i mean,who would anymore?BATHURST is not that far from devastated ORANGE….remnants still litter the streets.

    have to give him his fair chance,and from what I hear,BAIRD actually peed him off on a council decision,and would agree he wants secretly to give the god seeker the two finger signal.

    and now that GRANT has gone back to his POLICE MINISTERSHIP,maybe he would love the role of being let loose on those who dabble in drugs in the industry.wouldnt he just be rolling in clover with that.give them power to do what we are asking them to do,and that is charge them,but not shut down an entire industry.GRANT is seen rubbing his hands tightly and sniggering….lol.

    and yes JOHN,the HUMPHRIES/HODGKINSONS of the political world,burnt themselves doing justice.time hopefully will heal all wounds,and these people get the right roles.

    you know,i read somewhere recently where even LUKE FOLEY wanted 4 clear recommendations from the greys industry before he would leave it untouched. if that is fair dinkum statement,one needs to be very wary of any pollies and there promises….especially when needing as many votes as possible to shift governments.

    so MR.TOOLE, lets see if ya are a grander spanner…………….oops,cant help myself.

  6. Well it appears the Nationals are slow learners. After losing the safest National seat in the country- they sack Grant and then appoint another leader who agreed with the ban. Then they give Adam Marshall ( serial traffic offender and maker of such profound statements as ” there is no drug use in the horse industry just the greyhounds” and Melinda Pavey ” yes it was a hard decision” but I went with keeping my seat and voted for the ban. Toole was also happy to follow along with the Liberals. Meanwhile Chris Gulaptis, Katrina Hodkingson and Kevin Humphries were prepared to walk the floor to protect their constituents from greens policies and animal activism. Two of them lost their parliamentary secretary’s role with a loss of at least K a year and they get ignored. The Shooters, Fishers and Farmers must be rubbing their hands in glee.

  7. There is a phrase in the Bible, Daniel 5:25 I believe: “mene, mene, tekel, upharsin.”  It translates roughly into the writing is on the wall and it foretold the destruction of the kingdom of Belshazzar. I don’t think the industry should be overly comfortable with the fact that the greyhound racing ban was overturned. Fifty votes is not a lot. It will only take one more atrocity against the greyhounds; one more example of innocent living creatures being treated as commodities; one more example the inherent cruelty that lives at the heart of this so called sport to come to light and that slim edge will disappear. And it will happen sooner or later. An industry based on exploitation can’t help itself. Just as destruction came to Belshazzar greyhound racing will end.

    I am a Board member of Grey2K USA Worldwide, an organization that fights to save these marvelous creatures all over the globe. (you can learn more about us here: http://www.grey2kusa.org.) I have fostered and adopted rescued racing greyhounds since 1995. I cannot imagine abandoning any of them when they become injured, old or sick and yet this is routinely what happens to them at operating tracks and will continue to happen until enough people say no. Or should I say until 51 more people say no..
    Fred Barton
    Board Member
    Grey2K USA Worldwide

  8. John Tracey John how could she elevate Adam John Marshall to the ministry  its unbelievable  this bloke over the years doesn’t know whether  he’s coming or going . This Bloke has some real From ,once a member of the Labor party and at the same time  a member of the Nats! A convicted Drunken driver loss of Licence for 9 months and 17 speeding fines and you say he once was a great supporter of greyhounds when he was running the Gunnedah  Council he certainly went missing when we needed him when Baird ban the  dogs .He once boosted to his school mates (there were two of them ) he would be Prime Minister one day, God help us ,and what makes matters worse, the Grub was born on my Birthday the 4 September ! this one is not to be trusted at all ?

  9. BobWhitelaw John Tracey Proud of you Guys beating me on research. I can remember the Member as a teenager Mayor and on the Staff of local member Draper and he was gung-ho about the greyhounds then.

    should quit while I am in front but this Minister is very versatile having been involved with the Nationals and Labor and working for an independent at the same time, also he could be considered for other parties as well. Maybe he should have been made minister for roads. LOL.

    PS. One of my brothers was born on 4th September as well, he was the former mayor of Randwick.

  10. John Tracey BobWhitelaw I’am still the mayor of Abernethy ! as for him being minister for roads  he would certainly generate plenty income with his driving record , its a wonder he didn’t get the WESTCONECT gig,but then again it would only be our money he’s spending and wasting !

  11. BobWhitelaw John Tracey  the date of birth would be where the similarity ends I think Bob. I cannot believe anyone would put their faith is this twerp surely we cannot be desperate enough to have Mr Marshall in the Ministry.

  12. Deborah555 BobWhitelaw John Tracey Maybe there is more in this then  what meets the eye, Glady’s has no man in life or that’s what she is selling us ? Fair dinkum , with his form, how does he get a GIG!

  13. The word is, that about 600 jobs will be lost in TOOLE seat of Bathurst  through the sale Country  Energy  by the  Libs and Nats this year ..

  14. BobWhitelaw Deborah555 John Tracey Obviously he is very ambitious and when he was Mayor he was so greyhound friendly that we thought that he wanted to end up the President of the greyhound club. He has now made an application for promotion through the Greyhound Ban Act in his drive to end up the Prime Minister. There is a distinction .. between being and ending up something. If he had the portfolio of Special Events and Tourism in Victoria he would have one of the biggest cheque books in the State. The fact that they greyhounds and tourism are regarded by the NSW State as junior concerns in the totem pole is a matter for alarm.

    If you research the last few elections in NSW and look at the Ministry , departments and portfolio’s you can see what a massive job the Government has to stay alive. There are portfolios without corresponding acts that means there will be major demarcation issues. Nearly all Ministers have new portfolios.

    The canary in the coal mine is the fact that the situation is so tough that they have had to get a woman to run the State. This is not a good historical sign because it has always led to tears in the States apart from Queensland.

    Here is a prompt worthy of research showing NSW Trends up until the current election.

    The Liberal’s had an absolute majority in 2011 but kept the Nationals as partners this i my view caused continuing problems as the Nationals were there subject to privilege. The 2011 election gave the Libs and Nats a elevated membership in the upper house that reflected on the 2016 election results (half upper house elected each election). The advantage of the upper house numbers in 2011 will wash out in the 2019 election. 

    Labor could gain an additional two seats but the conservative vote will likely fracture amongst several parties.

    http://www.elections.nsw.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/96297/SGE_2010-2011_Amended.pdf

  15. John Tracey BobWhitelaw Deborah555 Its not a bad idea, bringing a young smart arse with the Parramatta road  sales pitch, but he’s a NAT and they are becoming obsolete .If he was to keep his promise to his mates about becoming Prime Minister he better start looking at jumping ship again lol? as for fracture of voting, agree parties like the SF&FP will win seats no doubt . 

  16. Most interest will come when Paul Toole has to react to any sections of Morris Iemma’s reforms that fall within his new portfolio. Iemma,who has only recently rejoined public life after serious health issues, will not want to be seen as another retiree delivering predetermined outcomes that please the government. As an ex premier, the man deserves respect.Rumours are that he is concerned  about the long term sustainability of the industry and would like changes to occur that might seem pro greyhound.

    After the lesson the government was given by the media over the announcement of the ban,one would think Paul Toole would be loath to challenge anything Iemma puts forward. 

  17. Trevor afte rour meeting with Iemma, i was  surprised by  how little he knew about Greyhound Racing here in NSW! example he was under the impression that GRNSW conduct racing at tracks which is not the case ,the clubs do. I wonder what information our spokesperson has forward to him re participants involvement in the industry ? He did say he was looking at 6 dog fields, commercial and regulatory side be  separate,but he did say that all these changes to the industry must be backed up by financial support by the Government.

  18. BobWhitelaw Deborah555 John Tracey  There is no way she is that desperate especially given she has done rather nicely all by herself. I have no idea how he could get a gig anywhere.

  19. Trevor H  I agree TREVOR….give IEMMA a chance to put it out there first.many of us are doing the usual,what ifs. we don’t know what is in store.we have to wait.

  20. BobWhitelaw ” but he did say that all these changes to the industry must be backed up by financial support by the Government.”

    I like that statement BOB……

  21. Trevor H The Ex Premier led Labor into a forth term in Government in 2007, he was very well regarded by both sides of Parliament. his appointment will have a calming effect on the situation but he will not shirk from offering advice he regards as sound. The Government appears to have tried to take the controversy out of racing and the special event portfolios by replacing thehighly rated ex ministers in these portfolios with junior ministers. There is no special portfolio for animal welfare.

    The Government needs to  goes back to the 1998 reforms that were essentially a consequence of the corporation of the NSW public service and add to it the effect of the fields legislation (update the Cameron Report 2008), a dispute resolution clause to allow reviews of the inter code agreements (binding arbitration rather than the current locked box system of non binding mediation, and protection for the minor interest in the intra code agreements (the country clubs).Also a reversal in the legislation barring non for profit clubs apart from certain charities obtaining benefit from the Casino fund levy. The inter code needs to be seen in the prism of the returning future fund and the criteria for the fund needs further codification. An industry restructure needs to be done by the participants and clubs alone involving marketing and promotion. This could be in the form of a trust supported in some way by incorporated bodies independent government direct control . What is left over from the above would make up a regulatory control board with regulations covering both conduct control in rules for integrity in business and play. 

    It would appear to me that the junior ministers selected would have much of a say initially in reform matters. The reshuffle success will depend on the Premir being able to combined Ministers and Portfolios into super corporations and I note for this purpose that the Premier has not taken on set portfolios herself.

    The suggestd greyhound reforms cat across many Ministerial responsibilities. Animal welfare considerations need to be factored in as well,

  22. The Ex Premier led Labor into a forth term in Government in 2007, he was very well regarded by both sides of Parliament. his appointment will have a calming effect on the situation but he will not shirk from offering advice he regards as sound. The Government appears to have tried to take the controversy out of racing and the special event portfolios by replacing thehighly rated ex ministers in these portfolios with junior ministers. There is no special portfolio for animal welfare.

    The Government needs to  goes back to the 1998 reforms that were essentially a consequence of the corporation of the NSW public service and add to it the effect of the fields legislation (update the Cameron Report 2008), a dispute resolution clause to allow reviews of the inter code agreements (binding arbitration rather than the current locked box system of non binding mediation, and protection for the minor interest in the intra code agreements (the country clubs).Also a reversal in the legislation barring non for profit clubs apart from certain charities obtaining benefit from the Casino fund levy. The inter code needs to be seen in the prism of the returning future fund and the criteria for the fund needs further codification. An industry restructure needs to be done by the participants and clubs alone involving marketing and promotion. This could be in the form of a trust supported in some way by incorporated bodies independent government direct control . What is left over from the above would make up a regulatory control board with regulations covering both conduct control in rules for integrity in business and play. 

    It would appear to me that the junior ministers selected would not have much of a say initially in reform matters. The reshuffle success will depend on the Premier being able to combined Ministers and Portfolios into super corporations and I note for this purpose that the Premier has not taken on set portfolios herself.

    The suggested greyhound reforms cut across many Ministerial responsibilities. Animal welfare considerations need to be factored in as well in budgets and KPI.

  23. Some of these Alliance people make  me laugh ! one has stated, that TOOLE will do the right thing and has  his support ,would not be a NAT supporter by any chance ? and i wonder if he felt the same when TOOLE  supported the Ban last year and we must remember “D” Day is the 1st of July and now .he’s the Racing MInister  his silence is DEAFENING as far as the Greyhounds are concern

  24. John Tracey John more then likely the reason she never took on any portfolios, is that she was a failure in some area’s , example Transport  she was a big failure why do think Baird moved her on, she knows how to waste Tax payers money..No good if your the Head Baker in a bread shop and you don’t know how bake bread Hmm !.

  25. spyman I just can not believe some of the Sh*t that comes out of the mouth of some of our so called Leading Trainers ?Now one of these proven Drug cheats tested positive to using (ice) on his dogs, is saying he would like to see Mr Toole come to a Bathurst meeting and present a Trophy it would help our cause i wonder what he’s ON? The trophy could be called i supported THE BAN

  26. spyman Nice spotting Spyman I hope the four letter word is not spin but fact. There have been over 80 replies to the article meaning that we are in for a hot time in town when the greyhound bill is debated in parliament.

    Also how did you go researching the tennis centre of excellence in Melbourne, Real Tennis and Coursing Started around the same time as each other and both remained an anglo sport till recent times. The French were involved early but anyone walking a greyhound and carrying a tennis racquet during the French revolution had a double chance of having their head lopped off. The aristocrat sport of tennis seems to have advanced further in evolving middle class in various countries while the greyhounds are not keeping pace so the fault cant just simply be caused by the Greyhound National Bodies distaste for the modern era.

  27. BobWhitelaw John Tracey Bob nice thought association with regards a Bakers shop (making dough), I think that the problem is that you have a Head Baker in a smash repair business that is full of people who cant use a spanner but can use a Toole.

  28. John Tracey spyman 

    http://www.rodlaverarena.com.au/about/history/

    https://www.mopt.com.au/

    a quick over view of MELBOURNE PARK and its surrounds.the costs of such a venture were on par I suppose,and I cant find anything in relation to financials stating does it show profit/s.

    being an old wheeler myself,i considered HI-SENSE arena a SEASONAL ACTIVITY,and if the big names did not appear,the crowds were extremely light on.the new DAREBIN COMPLEX has a better grip,but I don’t believe assoiated with same crew.

    you know JOHN,in that sport in particular(cycling)had a very similar situation as greyhounds have today.

    it was a sport that was very,very popular backwards of 90’s(track cycling I refer) but as with the greys industry,it met the mind set of the oldies not wanting to change the old concepts. many entreupeners wanted to take over the entire running of the sport,and take it into the future,but those old dogs kept barking the same commands,so an opportunity was lost.riders went overseas to seek their fortunes,and as is well known today,Australian cyclists more than hold there own against the worlds best.

    the chance to nurture those riders here was lost.the chance to gain TV rites etc; was lost,and when they did see the light(admins) the bird had flown.

    so if the dogs industry wants to take something from that experience,then learn from there mistakes.our best coaches along side of our best riders,are all overseas making the bucks….cycling is a very good comparison….it is a chance for strong TV coverage,as proven by the ROAD CYCLING SERIES we have through summer,so the track has events,like JAPAN has KEIRINS that attract the worlds best for huge monies,that draw massive on site and TV coverages.nurtiured correctly,it would be a boom,but the old heads must move sideways and allow the sport to be re-geared(so to speak) and this is exactly what needs to be done in the greys industry.

    the chances are there,needs someone with the foresight to grab it by the scruff and run with it. like GRV are doing in VICTORIA.

  29. spyman John Tracey 

    spyman, i guess i’m one of the old dogs, but i’m not really looking back!

    I don’t need flash toilets, i can squat behind my car, i don’t need an a’ la carte restaurant i can eat when i get home, i don’t need a new tab facility, i have an iphone.

    You can’t stage a world class cycling event if the bikes are steel framed with single gears.

    Similarly with greyhound racing the public will be turned away if you have up to 40 dogs per quarter breaking a leg down to unsafe tracks. However i concede we need both concepts, if we don’t solve the broken hock malady first it’s like putting the cart before the horse. All i want is to get my dogs home in one piece. Having said that i am very selective where i run my dogs, i am haunted by the rest.

  30. spyman John Tracey Thanks the greyhounds are essentially about 90% participants born in Australia and mainly of anglo Saxon origin. This shows that that the greyhounds are mainly a family business. I think that 36% of people living in Sydney are born overseas but the number of Australians born here is much greater in the Country. This is why the percentage of greyhound people in the country areas has grown dramatically and the numbers in the City have declined. In the most popular days in greyhound racing the number of participants in the City was 80% but now it is around 32%. These percentages are off a reducing base. Betting was allowed on all sporting enclosures until the early suppression acts that restricted wagering to active racecourses (animals) only. The professional bike racing went out of fashion around the time that greyhound racing was on the horizon. NSW that was the only mainland state to have mechanical hare racing up until the late fifties converted former bike ovals to greyhound racing. IN particular the oval Young had their race track around the outside of the bike track and used the bike amenities and lighting. Forbes followed suit and Casino actually used the bike technology to drive their mechanical hare. The professional bike racing paid a much smaller rent to the Parks than the greyhound but went out of favour in the 1950’s. My guess would have been that the amateur racing saw the riders getting more payments under the carpet for the more popular amateur events like the Olympic games etc. The tennis is a better parallel for the greyhounds as it did not turn professional until well into the twentieth Century and was for all extent and purposes a sport for the nobles. 

  31. John Tracey BobWhitelaw i think at the next round of elections they will be annihilated   and the TOOLE will be a part of that annihilation ! 

  32. lone widow spyman John Tracey Lone widow, you are proving my point if you looked at the Melbourne Tennis centre of excellence you would work out that it  about court surfaces, avoiding injury through repeat performances, couching etc and a host of tennis services. These are all participant based but to pay for them you need some type of external income. The income comes from p

    promotion and development and overseas interest.

    The greyhound income comes from greyhound people and they do not have much to spare so you need something else to bring in the income. The TAB battle with providing a centre of excellence for camera work and broadcast as anything they do on a racecourse costs them money by not doing it retail somewhere else so what you need is a broadcast system to overseas giving the TAB first option of refusal (under the Act) and use corporate bookmakers and the use of u-tube or something similar.

    If you will not appeal as well to the general public or overseas markets then you will not be eligible for a share in the million future fund on offer every five years for racing addressing the public interest.

    The balance is to weigh the narrow public interest of participants with the wider public interest of NSW in a similar manner to what the horses have woken up to and are doing with special events and overseas trade. The strength of the Tennis is in overseas trade and so is about everything else.

  33. John Tracey lone widow spyman 

    Agreed John the horses have got a real jump start, we may be overshadowed if not already.

    A centre of exellence with a larger one turn track will not reduce the injury rates in itself. If the remaining existing two turn tracks are retained as training facilities (trial tracks) the pre-existing injuries will not go away.

    It’s going to be a hard slog.

  34. lone widow John Tracey spyman very hard slog as you say. If one type of track is developed on a centre of excellence it could become a blueprint for other places. It sound to me as the safest track would be one that rises slightly over a full circumference Also some form of major improvement might be able to be made to the two turn tracks.(outside hare etc). Possibly if we could have mobile kennels or use hospitality rooms on horse race courses we could peg out a straight track and race on the race course. This situation used to occur in earlier days that had coursing on track. The fact that the NSW horses race a different way to the dogs and trots  would not count if the dogs raced up a straight.

    Also you mentioned track legs (repetitive injury) I am out of date with this injury but early they used to strap toes to change gaits using the harness shoeing of the horses that knee knocked. This action use to slow down the harness horses. The dogs were using vulcanised rubber and vasoline but it seemed to me to guarantee more ontat but not as painful. With the Harness horses we used to do fast work in the opposite direction to racing and swim rather than give fast work. Also we used to race in the opposite direction. I was wondering why do greyhounds all race the one way the only exception was the old track at Grafton. 

  35. John Tracey lone widow spyman 

    The American way with a racing centre with the greyhounds trained and living at the race track with a manager / trainer would greatly minimize injuries providing the track was big enough, however it would probably see an end of the hobby trainer, no Australian wants that.

    I mentioned track leg in a previous post where i stated that Zoom Top had the worst track leg i ever saw, it was huge but i never saw her prop in a race which is a tell tale symptom. One of my young pups has the usual track leg but i recently noticed she’s striking the right leg harder than the left, so i tape both legs. Taping does nothing but absorb the shock, it must be like a kick in the shins.

    I personally believe that’s all you can do for track leg, even a check in running will result in striking (some muscle men would disagree) i don’t use them.  I have no idea on the anticlockwise way of running. I don’t think it would make a difference to track leg.

  36. John Tracey spyman 

    John i forgot to mention i have a calculation  by ‘Gillette & Zebus’ that goes like this;

    Undoubtebly the increased load placed on the tarsal joint during cornering predisposes the joint to injury. By way of example, the limbs of a 30kg greyhound travelling at 17m/s on a 50 mtr radius bend experience a force of approximately 865 newtons. this equates to the hock being loaded with approx 86kg or nearly three times the greyhound’s body weight while travelling around the bend.

    John i don’t have a full transcript of ‘Gillette & Zebus’ findings. Perhaps you could throw in any other profound calculations.

  37. lone widow John Tracey spyman  the idea of all the greyhounds living at the track like they do in Asia, America and some of the British tracks is an awful idea. Not much of a life for the dog and would see the end of people having greyhounds as a hobby which I would hate to see happen. I agree with your ideas about engineering the tracks so they are safer for the dogs, a fair share of the tab turnover, Box 5 left empty ( I liked that idea John)  and away we go. You need a couple of  toilets and a betting facility and a canteen for the people and some shade to park the dog trailers. Welfare money given up by trainers pays to rehome dogs. A lot of the rearing places are more than happy to rehome old dogs and the welfare money could go to these people to look after the old dogs good for the old dogs and provides a regular and secure income for greyhound people who want to run old dogs homes.

  38. lone widow John Tracey spyman  PS unplaced prize money of a dog for every dog. That way people could race dogs that are not that fast and still afford to feed them. Money comes from taking 10% of some off the really big races where the prize money ends up in the same few hands.

  39. John Tracey lone widow spyman I would like to know if anyone has information about the Victorian greyhound racing model re the following -one or two rounds ago of the Victorian prize money distribution the GRV CEO stated that the industry was prepared to take a smaller  percentage in distribution than turnover generated. In return infrastructure revenue would be forthcoming. Since then numerous tracks have received upgrades. Where is this funding coming from?

    It is also interesting that in the early days of the reform panel, when Baird was still premier, the only public quote released was that the panel had been in consultation with the GRV CEO.

    I can interpret this two ways.If NSW copied the VIC model we would be copying best practice. Also Baird would not be seen as rewriting the rulebook and leaving himself open to media ridicule.