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I don’t think now would be the right time to be showcasing racing and gambling in Martin Place. I’m guessing you’d get lynched.
Dezzey I dont think it would be a good time down here either especially if you tried to showcase any of wheeler ,bate,or hunt dogs there would no doubt be lynchings .
Bruce, I have only listened to the current acting CEO of GRNSW who represents the Board as well and I got the impression that he was reflecting that greyhound racing apart from GRNSW did not have a collective voice (my words). When you read the patient which forms the delegations involved with the Special Commission of the Executive Council under the inquiry act it is noted that A B C are all involved with the breeding and training of greyhounds and whether regulations and controls can be introduced at a cost which will allow greyhound racing to be sustainable and… Read more »
John Tracey Newell set-up racing or at least was involved heavily over ten years ago. . From 2004 SMH article “Newell says protesters have the wrong picture. Retired racing dogs exported to those countries get a longer life expectancy and often better care than in Australia, with strict controls on their welfare, he says. “In Vietnam, we have a lovely compound close to the coast which has the afternoon sea breeze and dams for swimming and they are well looked after,” he says. Oh really ? These dogs a have a miserable outlook, especially in Vietnam. The “Leading” over-breeder you speak… Read more »
Dezzey John Tracey I would need to look at the Vietnam stats but if the dogs are graded to all be competitive in races and they race for a long time then their life expectancy would possibly higher than Australia. Ironically we are not very flash ourselves on the stated 442 criteria. Just on the legislation on trade, we have been trading greyhounds with China for nearly 100 years, the first greyhounds we sent were before 1920 when the ex pats set up mechanical hare racing on the mainland. Racing stopped and then started up again and was banned in the… Read more »
GreyhoundRacing stop live baiting and denying what is going on
John Tracey Dezzey
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2976602/Injected-arsenic-Viagra-cocaine-make-faster-win-die-races-evil-trade-unwanted-Australian-greyhounds-Asia-South-America-exposed.html
GreyhoundRacing National BETTING POOLS > $ Bigger Pools Bigger Punters/Interest Hence >$ to Promote Industry >Mugg Punters Mugg Industry
John Tracey Dezzey
I really don’t think we can sit behind stats and await the growing middle class prosperity of our neighbours to ensure future welfare. When you have Dr Choi U Fai,
head of the Macau government’s animal-control department, saying “the plight of greyhounds is “terrible”
and every dog imported from Australia was dead within three years; you know it is not good. See no evil, is not really good enough.
Dezzey John Tracey Thats you opinion but I beg to disagree.
With regard to your serious allegation of criminality against the leading breeder, your quote
“The “Leading” owner-breeder you speak of exports despite it being a violation of animal welfare legislation in Australia.
I will use your quote in a submission to the special inquiry could you let me know what section of the Federal or State Law is he breeching.
Are you prepared to appear before the special inquiry with your allegation.?.
John Tracey Dezzey All lifted from the 2014 NSW Parliamentary Inquiry (with a dash of emotion mind you). “A matter for the Federal Govt was the recommendation”.
Dezzey John Tracey Thanks I got the generic quotes off your activity statement, The law society makes your point and the inquiry states this is a matter for the Federal Government. This is a fact rather than a recommendation (my point as well.) I researched the matter of exports of greyhounds with the Federal department years ago when I objected to an article in the Financial Review on the subject. The reporter claimed that she had got her information from an animal rights group and that the stats came from the Federal departments records. I rang the Federal Department under the… Read more »
Sorry I am a bit slow on editing my posts, this is my further clarification to Deasy. The dash of emotion is welcome the upshot of this conversation is that GA and the control boards are limited in what effect they have and in in regard to the export of animals. In fact they are either a small agency or in the case of GA a small company. There appear better ways of influencing animal rights in Asia than by protesting with a clayton’s ban which is designed to appease the animal rights groups and little else. I hope that… Read more »
Dezzey John Tracey The dash of emotion is welcome the upshot of this conversation is that GA and the control boards are limited in what effect they have and in in regard to the export of animals. In fact they are either a small agency or in the case of GA a small company. There appear better ways of influencing animal rights in Asia than by protesting with a clayton’s ban which is designed to appease the animal rights groups and little else. I hope that submissions to the current special enquiry will deal with this aspect my take is that… Read more »
John Tracey Thanks John. I enjoy the banter and I have learned a thing or two. Whilst we may disagree we both love the Hound.
Dezzey John Tracey Absolutely, same here, thanks for the kind thoughts.
I don’t think now would be the right time to be showcasing racing and gambling in Martin Place. I’m guessing you’d get lynched.
Dezzey I dont think it would be a good time down here either especially if you tried to showcase any of wheeler ,bate,or hunt dogs there would no doubt be lynchings .
Bruce, I have only listened to the current acting CEO of GRNSW who represents the Board as well and I got the impression that he was reflecting that greyhound racing apart from GRNSW did not have a collective voice (my words). When you read the patient which forms the delegations involved with the Special Commission of the Executive Council under the inquiry act it is noted that A B C are all involved with the breeding and training of greyhounds and whether regulations and controls can be introduced at a cost which will allow greyhound racing to be sustainable and… Read more »
John Tracey Newell set-up racing or at least was involved heavily over ten years ago. . From 2004 SMH article “Newell says protesters have the wrong picture. Retired racing dogs exported to those countries get a longer life expectancy and often better care than in Australia, with strict controls on their welfare, he says. “In Vietnam, we have a lovely compound close to the coast which has the afternoon sea breeze and dams for swimming and they are well looked after,” he says. Oh really ? These dogs a have a miserable outlook, especially in Vietnam. The “Leading” over-breeder you speak… Read more »
Dezzey John Tracey I would need to look at the Vietnam stats but if the dogs are graded to all be competitive in races and they race for a long time then their life expectancy would possibly higher than Australia. Ironically we are not very flash ourselves on the stated 442 criteria. Just on the legislation on trade, we have been trading greyhounds with China for nearly 100 years, the first greyhounds we sent were before 1920 when the ex pats set up mechanical hare racing on the mainland. Racing stopped and then started up again and was banned in the… Read more »
GreyhoundRacing stop live baiting and denying what is going on
John Tracey Dezzey
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2976602/Injected-arsenic-Viagra-cocaine-make-faster-win-die-races-evil-trade-unwanted-Australian-greyhounds-Asia-South-America-exposed.html
GreyhoundRacing National BETTING POOLS > $ Bigger Pools Bigger Punters/Interest Hence >$ to Promote Industry >Mugg Punters Mugg Industry
John Tracey Dezzey
I really don’t think we can sit behind stats and await the growing middle class prosperity of our neighbours to ensure future welfare. When you have Dr Choi U Fai,head of the Macau government’s animal-control department, saying “the plight of greyhounds is “terrible”and every dog imported from Australia was dead within three years; you know it is not good. See no evil, is not really good enough.
Dezzey John Tracey Thats you opinion but I beg to disagree.
With regard to your serious allegation of criminality against the leading breeder, your quote
“The “Leading” owner-breeder you speak of exports despite it being a violation of animal welfare legislation in Australia.
I will use your quote in a submission to the special inquiry could you let me know what section of the Federal or State Law is he breeching.
Are you prepared to appear before the special inquiry with your allegation.?.
John Tracey Dezzey All lifted from the 2014 NSW Parliamentary Inquiry (with a dash of emotion mind you). “A matter for the Federal Govt was the recommendation”.
Dezzey John Tracey Thanks I got the generic quotes off your activity statement, The law society makes your point and the inquiry states this is a matter for the Federal Government. This is a fact rather than a recommendation (my point as well.) I researched the matter of exports of greyhounds with the Federal department years ago when I objected to an article in the Financial Review on the subject. The reporter claimed that she had got her information from an animal rights group and that the stats came from the Federal departments records. I rang the Federal Department under the… Read more »
Sorry I am a bit slow on editing my posts, this is my further clarification to Deasy. The dash of emotion is welcome the upshot of this conversation is that GA and the control boards are limited in what effect they have and in in regard to the export of animals. In fact they are either a small agency or in the case of GA a small company. There appear better ways of influencing animal rights in Asia than by protesting with a clayton’s ban which is designed to appease the animal rights groups and little else. I hope that… Read more »
Dezzey John Tracey The dash of emotion is welcome the upshot of this conversation is that GA and the control boards are limited in what effect they have and in in regard to the export of animals. In fact they are either a small agency or in the case of GA a small company. There appear better ways of influencing animal rights in Asia than by protesting with a clayton’s ban which is designed to appease the animal rights groups and little else. I hope that submissions to the current special enquiry will deal with this aspect my take is that… Read more »
John Tracey Thanks John. I enjoy the banter and I have learned a thing or two. Whilst we may disagree we both love the Hound.
Dezzey John Tracey Absolutely, same here, thanks for the kind thoughts.