Bundaberg incident dumb and embarrassing, but that’s all so far

THE actions at Bundaberg are obviously stupid, ill-considered, ill-planned and contrary to the laws of greyhound racing. But, so far, there is no evidence of cruelty. Nor are there any indications the police will lay cruelty charges. That may change but until it does no crime exists and everyone is innocent.

The publicity has done no good, of course, but the event has not been helped by emotive reactions from a Police Minister still wearing L Plates. Her use of terms like “mass murder” and “animal cruelty” are improper and unhelpful. Indeed, were any cases to come before the court, they might be considered contempt. Anyway, her populist plea “to catch these people and have the justice system deal with them” is irrelevant unless and until (a) a crime is uncovered, which seems unlikely, and (b) the accused are shown to be responsible, with horse and greyhound trainer Narelle Mulcahy and her 71-year-old partner the only known links at this stage.

Those doubts are underscored by the discovery of .22 cartridges near the bodies. It would be very difficult to prove that a bullet through the head constitutes cruelty. Were that the sole evidence, hundreds of Queensland sheep farmers would also need to come before the judge.

We should also note that the RSPCA and local councils “murder” thousands of dogs and other animals every year for a variety of reasons, many of which involve previous abuse and neglect from owners.

Both the RSPCA and a Friends of the Hound spokesman have commented on the Bundaberg incident but neither has used the word “cruelty”.

If you want to know what cruelty is, check this report last month in the Newcastle Herald:

“Only one puppy out of seven survived a brutal attack in bushland near Kurri Kurri. The Bull Arab-cross puppies were allegedly dragged out of a Holden Commodore, swung around in the air and possibly bashed into the ground before being thrown into the scrub.”

That is cruelty and the offender was duly penalised. So he should be.

Meantime, let’s wait for more facts at Bundaberg.

Past Discussion

  1. @greg The condition of the farm is a great example of what’s wrong with having inspections done by the industry itself.  Greyhound welfare is a set of words that have little, if any, meaning in the industry.

  2. @greg The condition of the farm is a great example of what’s wrong with having inspections done by the industry itself.  Greyhound welfare is a set of words that have little, if any, meaning in the industry.  

  3. Pointing out cruelty by others does not diminish one’s own culpability in condoning cruelty by the greyhound industry.  Rather, your comments serve to remind us that such cruelty occurs in many settings, and the people that take part in the greyhound racing industry are part of a larger group that inflict pain and suffering upon animals.

  4. Pointing out cruelty by others does not diminish one’s own culpability in condoning cruelty by the greyhound industry.  Rather, your comments serve to remind us that such cruelty occurs in many settings, and the people that take part in the greyhound racing industry are part of a larger group that inflict pain and suffering upon animals. 

  5. The one thing that has struck me most in recent months is the widespread deflection tactics and absolute refusal to acknowledge the elephant in the room, the routine and callous culling of surplus dogs endemic in the Industry. Even when faced with clear evidence, you pass it off….because it is normal to you. Acceptable. Disgusting.

  6. The one thing that has struck me most in recent months is the widespread deflection tactics and absolute refusal to acknowledge the elephant in the room, the routine and callous culling of surplus dogs endemic in the Industry. Even when faced with clear evidence, you pass it off….because it is normal to you. Acceptable. Disgusting.

  7. It’s not how they were killed or whether that method of killing is legal or not  that’s the problem Mr Teague.  The problem is that elements in your industry always have and always will treat greyhounds as trash to throw on a garbage heap when they’re not bringing in the dollars.

  8. It’s not how they were killed or whether that method of killing is legal or not  that’s the problem Mr Teague.  The problem is that elements in your industry always have and always will treat greyhounds as trash to throw on a garbage heap when they’re not bringing in the dollars.

  9. The average Australian finds it abhorrent. The industry finds it dumb and embarrassing. The wider this gap gets the more the industry loses social licence to continue.

  10. The average Australian finds it abhorrent. The industry finds it dumb and embarrassing. The wider this gap gets the more the industry loses social licence to continue.

  11. Rugby players have a voice and can choose to play 😄not just do gooders but passionate about the safety and well being of the dogs ❤️

  12. The greyhound racing industry is still completely out of step with the public. They don’t truly appreciate how abhorrent they find live baiting to be. And evidenced by Bruce Teagues story, the industry is still completely oblvious to the issue of overbreeding. Bruce, let me spell it out for you. Its not about whether they were killed by a bullet (evidence is now emerging that several may have had their skulls caved in). The overall issue is why are 55 greyhounds disposed of like they were garbage? It is simply unacceptable to the general public to have between 18 to 20,000 greyhounds born each year with well more than half being disposed of as ‘wastage’. THATS the issue here Bruce. When are we going to see REAL change that will reduce this number? The industry doesn’t even keep track of dogs after their careers are over. In NSW around 10,000 dogs are registered each year. At best 1,000 of them will be adopted out. If we are being favourable we say another 1,000 were kept on as pets by owners (and that number is being generous), so where are the other 8,000 dogs? Lets start focusing on the real issues at play here, rather than saying ‘Oh they were killed by a bullet, so nothing to see here folks.’

  13. The greyhound racing industry is still completely out of step with the public. They don’t truly appreciate how abhorrent they find live baiting to be. And evidenced by Bruce Teagues story, the industry is still completely oblvious to the issue of overbreeding. Bruce, let me spell it out for you. Its not about whether they were killed by a bullet (evidence is now emerging that several may have had their skulls caved in). The overall issue is why are 55 greyhounds disposed of like they were garbage? It is simply unacceptable to the general public to have between 18 to 20,000 greyhounds born each year with well more than half being disposed of as ‘wastage’. THATS the issue here Bruce. When are we going to see REAL change that will reduce this number? The industry doesn’t even keep track of dogs after their careers are over. In NSW around 10,000 dogs are registered each year. At best 1,000 of them will be adopted out. If we are being favourable we say another 1,000 were kept on as pets by owners (and that number is being generous), so where are the other 8,000 dogs? Lets start focusing on the real issues at play here, rather than saying ‘Oh they were killed by a bullet, so nothing to see here folks.’

  14. Of course there is no good bringing up the issue of overbreeding with GRNSW. Any post on their Facebook page that is slightly critical of the industry is deleted and the poster banned immediately. Recently they did a post on Zipping Willow and what a great dog he was. Only problem is they actively tried to ban this dog for the live baiting issue. Yet when they lost the case,suddenly they are all like ‘ok, now we love the dog, lets all celebrate him.’ ….. the GRNSW are complete hypocrites. Claiming to clean up the industry yet allowing 9 banned dogs to run in the Easter Egg trials and bigging up those dogs that they tried to ban. They are sending out all kinds of mixed signals to the general public so why should the public believe anything they say?

  15. Of course there is no good bringing up the issue of overbreeding with GRNSW. Any post on their Facebook page that is slightly critical of the industry is deleted and the poster banned immediately. Recently they did a post on Zipping Willow and what a great dog he was. Only problem is they actively tried to ban this dog for the live baiting issue. Yet when they lost the case,suddenly they are all like ‘ok, now we love the dog, lets all celebrate him.’ ….. the GRNSW are complete hypocrites. Claiming to clean up the industry yet allowing 9 banned dogs to run in the Easter Egg trials and bigging up those dogs that they tried to ban. They are sending out all kinds of mixed signals to the general public so why should the public believe anything they say?

  16. Mr Teague, you are out of step with the rest of Australians beliefs about what is considered humane & what is not. Shooting an animal that is alive & well humanely takes great skill and frequently is not instantly fatal, hence the smashed skulls. The humane shooting of an injured or diseased animal by a farmer is a far different scenario. Australians would expect all animals killed be it a dog, cat or cow is performed with least distress to the animal, we are after all a civilized country. Furthermore, the big issue here is not the way these dogs died, but that they died before old age took them. Greyhound racing are the biggest puppy farmers in Australia and those who are breeding them, have not til now been asked to take responsibility for all the lives they have created. You all say that you love your dogs and care for them, I’d like to believe that, but the evidence is scarce.

  17. Mr Teague, you are out of step with the rest of Australians beliefs about what is considered humane & what is not. Shooting an animal that is alive & well humanely takes great skill and frequently is not instantly fatal, hence the smashed skulls. The humane shooting of an injured or diseased animal by a farmer is a far different scenario. Australians would expect all animals killed be it a dog, cat or cow is performed with least distress to the animal, we are after all a civilized country. Furthermore, the big issue here is not the way these dogs died, but that they died before old age took them. Greyhound racing are the biggest puppy farmers in Australia and those who are breeding them, have not til now been asked to take responsibility for all the lives they have created. You all say that you love your dogs and care for them, I’d like to believe that, but the evidence is scarce.

  18. “No crime exists and everyone is innocent” except for the 50 or so dead dogs left ti rot in a field…. were they guilty????

  19. “No crime exists and everyone is innocent” except for the 50 or so dead dogs left ti rot in a field…. were they guilty????

  20. Sorry shooting dogs has no place in society ..the lazy tight arse scum COULD have paid for a vet this is something that must be rectified within the industry …give them life …

  21. Sorry shooting dogs has no place in society ..the lazy tight arse scum COULD have paid for a vet this is something that must be rectified within the industry …give them life …

  22. Bruce Teague, really??? You are such a dinosaur.  You should have just stuck to the innocent until proven guilty line.  I totally agree, everyone is allowed their day in court as are this pair. As we all know, it is not illegal to shoot your greyhound (or any other breed for that matter) in the head, as long as it is done humanely and your gun is licensed,  However it is illegal to dump them on public land, and to have an unlicensed gun.  All that aside., Bruce, you are so out of step with how disgusted the public is with the seamier side of your second favourite industry, that if I was you I would not give up your day job of airline management and leave the ethical considerations of welfare within the industry to the people that actually know something about it.  It is not an either/or situation, the example you use of the puppies in Kurri Kurri  is equally awful – it does not, however, make the killing and dumping of 55 greyhounds look any better.  It does not “put it in context”.  It does not make the industry look any less culpable,  Even industry participants think you are wrong on this one.  Not sure which alternative reality you are living in, but perhaps you have been watching too many episodes of Game of Thrones

  23. Bruce Teague, really??? You are such a dinosaur.  You should have just stuck to the innocent until proven guilty line.  I totally agree, everyone is allowed their day in court as are this pair. As we all know, it is not illegal to shoot your greyhound (or any other breed for that matter) in the head, as long as it is done humanely and your gun is licensed,  However it is illegal to dump them on public land, and to have an unlicensed gun.  All that aside., Bruce, you are so out of step with how disgusted the public is with the seamier side of your second favourite industry, that if I was you I would not give up your day job of airline management and leave the ethical considerations of welfare within the industry to the people that actually know something about it.  It is not an either/or situation, the example you use of the puppies in Kurri Kurri  is equally awful – it does not, however, make the killing and dumping of 55 greyhounds look any better.  It does not “put it in context”.  It does not make the industry look any less culpable,  Even industry participants think you are wrong on this one.  Not sure which alternative reality you are living in, but perhaps you have been watching too many episodes of Game of Thrones

  24. @Ewan  By left wing media you mean CNN, BBC, NYTIMES, News Limited (owned by Mr Right Wing himself Rupert Murdoch) ? They all reported it. 


    You can’t blame the lefty vegans anymore because Mr and Mrs Average Joe Public who didn’t have any reason to think about the industry until now, are the ones up in arms about “a few dead dogs”. 


    Check out what the “Right wing media” are saying  http://www.news-mail.com.au/news/its-time-give-and-walk-away-greyhound-racing/2597752/#c1092585

    This isn’t the livestock or poultry industry that provide food and economic stability to our economy. It’s a domestic dog chasing a stuffed toy around a track for entertainment. Anyone who thinks it’s ok to euthanise a dog because it isn’t able to entertain needs to have a good look at themselves. And WTF does abortion have to do with it.? I’m assuming you read the bible,  the bible mentions the Greyhound and it didn’t say “Though shall bet on the Greyhound and treat it with contempt”

  25. Very well said, Bruce. Anyone who disagrees with your common-sense appraisal has clearly lost touch with reality. Too bad it appears so many people have.

  26. Very well said, Bruce. Anyone who disagrees with your common-sense appraisal has clearly lost touch with reality. Too bad it appears so many people have.

  27. The other day I was at Safeway and saw dozens, maybe a hundred, of dead
    chickens. It looked like they had been roasted to death! How horrible!
    Clearly it was a case of mass-murder and undoubtedly there was cruelty
    involved – they were dead weren’t they? And the macabre thing about it
    was that they had all been decapitated and had their feet cut off. There
    must have been fowl play involved. These birds were clearly tortured to
    death!

  28. The other day I was at Safeway and saw dozens, maybe a hundred, of dead chickens. It looked like they had been roasted to death! How horrible! Clearly it was a case of mass-murder and undoubtedly there was cruelty involved – they were dead weren’t they? And the macabre thing about it was that they had all been decapitated and had their feet cut off. There must have been fowl play involved. These birds were clearly tortured to death!

  29. The
    most appalling aspect to this story is how the leftmedia and many
    political leaders get so outraged over a few dead greyhounds and yet
    couldn’t care less about the abortion holocaust. Not only that, but said
    leftmedia and political leaders would come
    down like the proverbial ‘ton of bricks’ on anyone who dared suggest
    abortion to be murder, and yet they consider it acceptable to use the
    term “murder” to describe some dead dogs!

  30. The most appalling aspect to this story is how the leftmedia and many political leaders get so outraged over a few dead greyhounds and yet couldn’t care less about the abortion holocaust. Not only that, but said leftmedia and political leaders would come down like the proverbial ‘ton of bricks’ on anyone who dared suggest abortion to be murder, and yet they consider it acceptable to use the term “murder” to describe some dead dogs!

  31. @Ewan Oh dear. Someone who doesnt understand the concept of animals as a food source in a regulated industry versus animals used purely as entertainment before being disposed of, many of whom are disposed in ways  that are not under any form of regulation. Never mind Ewan, on the plus side, I want you to keep talking as you pretty much represent the intelligence level of most people in the greyhound racing industry.

  32. @Ewan Oh dear. Someone who doesnt understand the concept of animals as a food source in a regulated industry versus animals used purely as entertainment before being disposed of, many of whom are disposed in ways  that are not under any form of regulation. Never mind Ewan, on the plus side, I want you to keep talking as you pretty much represent the intelligence level of most people in the greyhound racing industry.

  33. @Ewan  By left wing media you mean CNN, BBC, NYTIMES, News Limited (owned by Mr Right Wing himself Rupert Murdoch) ? They all reported it. 

    You can’t blame the lefty vegans anymore because Mr and Mrs Average Joe Public who didn’t have any reason to think about the industry until now, are the ones up in arms about “a few dead dogs”. 

    Check out what the “Right wing media” are saying  http://www.news-mail.com.au/news/its-time-give-and-walk-away-greyhound-racing/2597752/#c1092585
    This isn’t the livestock or poultry industry that provide food and economic stability to our economy. It’s a domestic dog chasing a stuffed toy around a track for entertainment. Anyone who thinks it’s ok to euthanise a dog because it isn’t able to entertain needs to have a good look at themselves. And WTF does abortion have to do with it.? I’m assuming you read the bible,  the bible mentions the Greyhound and it didn’t say “Though shall bet on the Greyhound and treat it with contempt”

  34. Hopefully this is all past now and by registering greyhound for the sake of following their life will help maybe subsidise the vet to euthanise greyhounds…absolutely no excuse then to do it any other way…how many of us haven’t sent the papers back after putting a dog down the new way of the paperwork signed by the vet and a 7 day clause to send the form to greyhound authority..just my thought.

  35. Hopefully this is all past now and by registering greyhound for the sake of following their life will help maybe subsidise the vet to euthanise greyhounds…absolutely no excuse then to do it any other way…how many of us haven’t sent the papers back after putting a dog down the new way of the paperwork signed by the vet and a 7 day clause to send the form to greyhound authority..just my thought.

  36. Their are Cowboys in every sport and no doubt in greyhounds ..I bet their are many pets suffering out their from lack of vet help by owners…not just greyhounds .. Is their a big problem for all with vet charges? It’s just a thought so don’t attack.

  37. Their are Cowboys in every sport and no doubt in greyhounds ..I bet their are many pets suffering out their from lack of vet help by owners…not just greyhounds .. Is their a big problem for all with vet charges? It’s just a thought so don’t attack. Also buying dog meat at the knackery I have quite often seen race horses coming in for process.